All Time Area XI's

[tooextracool]

There's not really much reason why Lara shouldn't be considered better than Viv Richards. He beats him in just about every category.

not really....viv played better bowling attacks on less batter friendly surfaces so their averages can be distorted.

 

[a massive zebra]

Area 1 (New Zealand and Australia)

V Trumper
M Hayden
D Bradman*
G Chappell
N Harvey
A Gilchrist+
K Miller
R Hadlee
D Lillee
W O'Reilly
G McGrath

Area 2 (India,Pakistan and Sri Lanka)

S Gavaskar
Hanif Mohammad
R Dravid
S Tendulkar
Javed Miandad
K Sangakarra+
Imran Khan*
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
M Muralitharan

Area 3 (England,South Africa and West Indies)

J Hobbs
L Hutton*
G Headley
G Pollock
W Hammond
G Sobers
J Kallis
A Knott+
M Marshall
C Ambrose
S Barnes

 

[Loony BoB]

Actually, I would have Fleming in for Waugh - I think Fleming (with the right bowlers, if you know what I mean) can get a side out for 50 runs less than Waugh could at the least, meaning his average which is around 15 runs less is still enough to be worthy over Waugh. Proof? NZ have taken it to the superbly ranked Aussies more than enough times with a supposedly lack-lustre side that should have wiped the floor with us. Otherwise, yes, I'd definitely agree that Hadlee is the only NZ'er worthy of making it into the side. I considered Cairns for a short while, mind you - and if we were ever going for a straight-out wicket keeper rather than a keeper-batsman, I'd take Parore over the Australian offers any day of the week.

 

[SJS]

Area 1 (New Zealand and Australia)

V Trumper
M Hayden
D Bradman*
G Chappell
N Harvey
A Gilchrist+
K Miller
R Hadlee
D Lillee
W O'Reilly
G McGrath

Area 2 (India,Pakistan and Sri Lanka)

S Gavaskar
Hanif Mohammad
R Dravid
S Tendulkar
Javed Miandad
K Sangakarra+
Imran Khan*
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
M Muralitharan

Area 3 (England,South Africa and West Indies)

J Hobbs
L Hutton*
G Headley
G Pollock
W Hammond
G Sobers
J Kallis
A Knott+
M Marshall
C Ambrose
S Barnes

I would make maximum two changes per side

Area 1. Replace Gilchrist and McGrath with Healy and Warne.

Area 2. Replace Sangkarra and Waqar with Kirmani and Bedi

Area 3. Replace Kallis with Laker .

 

[cheshy]

um heres my teamz:

Area 1:
M.Taylor
M.Waugh
D.Bradman
M.Crowe
G.Chappel
S.Waugh*
A.Gilchrist+
R.Hadlee
S.Warne
D.Lillee
J.Thomson

Area 2:
S.Gavaskar
Hanif Muhumad
R.Dravid
S.Tendulkar
J.Miandad
D.Vengsarkar
K.Sangakarra+
I.Khan
K.Dev
W.Akram
M.Murilitharan

Area 3.
G. Greenidge
L. Hutton
V. Richards
B. Lara
G. Sobers
I. Botham
A. Knott+
J. Laker
M. Marshall
M. Holding
H. Larwood

I would think that Area 1 would play Area 3 in the final but I couldnt split those two teams.

 

[Burgey]

Best thread dig ever, imo.

Welcome btw.

 

[Richard]

Haha, tec and Hingston. But even more haha at Jamee putting Hayden in an all-time team, not just ahead of the likes of Slater, McCosker, Laird, Lawry, Simpson, Redpath, Morris, Barnes, Hassett, Woodfull and Ponsford, but Turner too!

This thread was made just a couple of weeks before I returned to CW in June '04.

 

[Zinzan]

And Marshall is pretty much widely accepted as the greatest fast bowler of all time...Walsh is not even in that frame of reference.

Not sure he's widely accepted as that ...although IMO I would vote Marshall no 1 followed by Hadlee

 

[Richard]

Virtually no-one who knows anything about anything would have Marshall at anywhere but #1 or #2 on the list of all-time best seam-bowlers. And far more than not on this forum would place him at #1, from my experience.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Area 3 (England,South Africa and West Indies)

L Hutton
D Haynes+
V Richards*
B Lara
G Pollock
G Sobers
W Grace
C Ambrose
A Donald
S Barnes
C Walsh

This is the best thread ever on this forum.
WG batting at seven and Desmond Haynes keeping wicket.

I'm don't know if the Awards were active in 2004 but this surely would have swept the board.

 

[Richard]

TBF, Jamee was only 11 at the time of this thread. Doubt many if any of that age would have been terribly educated on the game's history. And apart from Malcolm Marshall swapped with Courtney Walsh the bowling-attack is pretty much spot-on.

And nah, the Awards started in March 2006.

 

[Jamee999]

Ah, crap...

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Haha, tec and Hingston. But even more haha at Jamee putting Hayden in an all-time team, not just ahead of the likes of Slater, McCosker, Laird, Lawry, Simpson, Redpath, Morris, Barnes, Hassett, Woodfull and Ponsford, but Turner too!

This thread was made just a couple of weeks before I returned to CW in June '04.

This is the best thread ever on this forum.
WG batting at seven and Desmond Haynes keeping wicket.

I'm don't know if the Awards were active in 2004 but this surely would have swept the board.

TBF, Jamee was only 11 at the time of this thread. Doubt many if any of that age would have been terribly educated on the game's history. And apart from Malcolm Marshall swapped with Courtney Walsh the bowling-attack is pretty much spot-on.

And nah, the Awards started in March 2006.

So naming Hayden as an opener in an all time Australasian XI is hysterical, but naming Desmond Haynes as the best wicket keeper in the history of England/West Indian and South African cricket can be put down to age.
The less charitable might consider that another cheap and unnecessary shot at Hayden.

 

[Richard]

Nah, the Hayden line was fairly obviously in jest. And yes, certain errors in historical knowledge can be put down to being 11 years old.

Where, BTW, are "hysterical" and "able to be put down to age" mutually exclusive?

 

[archie mac]

I like to pick all time XIs based on the cricket book bios that I have, a little light on WIs players so I have Desmond as my wicket keeper

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Where, BTW, are "hysterical" and "able to be put down to age" mutually exclusive?

If that's a quiz question I'm afraid I don't watch Dr Who.

 

[Richard]

It's not a quiz question - it's a roundabout way of pointing-out that I wasn't claiming the opening post of the thread wasn't either hilarious nor just a tad ill-informed. Even Jamee himself has acknowledged as much. But I doubt anyone would know a particularly large amount about cricket history aged 11. I think some slack could - and I daresay would - be cut him. To even know Desmond Haynes' name, even if you did think he was a wicketkeeper, isn't too bad an effort.

 

[Ikki]

Area 1 (New Zealand and Australia)

A Morris
M Hayden
D Bradman*
G Chappell
R Ponting
A Gilchrist+
K Miller
R Hadlee
S Warne
D Lillee
G McGrath

Area 2 (India,Pakistan and Sri Lanka)

S Gavaskar
H Mohammad
R Dravid
S Tendulkar
J Miandad
K Sangakarra+
I Khan*
K Dev
W Akram
W Younis
M Muralitharan

Area 3 (England,South Africa and West Indies)

J Hobbs
H Sutcliffe
V Richards
G Pollock
W Hammond
G Sobers
J Kallis
A Knott+
M Marshall
C Ambrose
S Barnes

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I like to pick all time XIs based on the cricket book bios that I have, a little light on WIs players so I have Desmond as my wicket keeper

You mean you have a book about Desmond Haynes?

 

[archie mac]

You mean you have a book about Desmond Haynes?

Yes, by Steen, was not that impressed tbh