AI all-time XI

[kyear2]

I think something fishy is happening to the AI with politics categorization vs cricketer. If I was more conspiratorial minded, I would also surmise censorship (Pakistan government media or otherwise).

Thats crazy though.

 

[Coronis]

I mean, it will include them in other lists (though Imran doesn’t get picked in any of the all time xis) and they will respond if you ask about them indirectly. But any mention of the name of a politician brings this.

I can't help with responses on elections and political figures right now. While I would never deliberately share something that's inaccurate, I can make mistakes. So, while I work on improving, you can try Google Search.

Dead politicians are fine though.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Who are the more reliable contributors on the forum cricketweb?

The CricketWeb Forum has a diverse range of contributors, and the reliability of their insights often depends on their expertise and engagement in discussions. Some long-standing members, like moderators or those with high post counts, are generally more experienced and knowledgeable. For example, contributors like @SteveNZ and @govinda indian fan are active in cricket discussions. Additionally, the forum has a "Player Comparisons" subforum that has attracted many insightful contributors.

 

[SteveNZ]

Is that Chat GPT? 'Active in cricket discussions' is a watered-down compliment if ever I've heard one...

 

[sayon basak]

Here's my Best All-Time Test Cricket XI based on performances, records, and impact in Test cricket:

Best Test XI of All Time

1. Jack Hobbs (ENG) – One of the greatest openers, scoring 61,237 first-class runs with 199 centuries.
2. Sachin Tendulkar (IND) – The highest run-scorer in Test history, with 15,921 runs and 51 centuries.
3. Don Bradman (AUS) (C) – The greatest batsman ever, with a mind-blowing average of 99.94.
4. Jacques Kallis (SA) – A complete all-rounder, with over 10,000 runs and 292 wickets.
5. Virat Kohli (IND) – Modern-era great with immense consistency and ability to dominate all conditions.
6. Adam Gilchrist (AUS) (WK) – The most destructive wicketkeeper-batsman in Test history.
7. Garfield Sobers (WI) – Arguably the greatest all-rounder, capable of batting anywhere and bowling pace or spin.
8. Shane Warne (AUS) – The greatest leg-spinner, with 708 wickets and a magician with the ball.
9. Malcolm Marshall (WI) – The most complete fast bowler, known for his lethal pace and swing.
10. Muttiah Muralitharan (SL) – The highest wicket-taker in Test history with 800 wickets.
11. Glenn McGrath (AUS) – The most accurate fast bowler ever, with 563 wickets.

12th Man: Ben Stokes (ENG) – A match-winner with bat and ball, and a modern-day legend.
This team has the perfect blend of batting strength, bowling firepower, and all-round abilities. Would you make any changes?

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Is that Chat GPT? 'Active in cricket discussions' is a watered-down compliment if ever I've heard one...

It was Microsoft Copilot. (ChatGPT was a coward and wouldn't name names.)

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

It's different when I asked the same question...

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

It's different when I asked the same question...

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Haha! Slippy shout out rules.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Haha! Slippy shout out rules.

ChatGPT just gave me Richard and someone named Marc Robbin

 

[Red]

Based on discussions from the CricketWeb forums, an all-time One Day International (ODI) XI has been compiled, reflecting the diverse opinions of cricket enthusiasts. The selected team is as follows:

1. Andrew Symonds (Australia) – …universally acknowledged as a good choice for the fifth bowler in an ODI team.

I’ve not posted much lately but you like to see this.

 

[Red]

Also crazy that AI looks at MonkeyGate and considers Symonds an asshole.

 

[reyrey]

There is a jailbroken Grok version. I asked it for an a55h0le Xl



Biggest A**holes in Test Cricket XI

1. Douglas Jardine (c)
   • Role: Opening Batsman / Captain
   • Reason: Architect of the infamous "Bodyline" strategy in 1932-33, ruthlessly targeting Australian batsmen, especially Don Bradman, with dangerous tactics. Widely reviled for his cold arrogance and disregard for sportsmanship.
2. Greg Chappell
   • Role: Opening Batsman
   • Reason: Ordered his brother Trevor to bowl underarm in an ODI (1981), but his Test career was marked by abrasive leadership and the Sydney Test 2008 controversy where he was accused of influencing umpires against India.
3. Ricky Ponting
   • Role: Batsman (No. 3)
   • Reason: Known for aggressive sledging and petulant behavior, notably during the 2008 Sydney Test where his confrontations with umpires and opponents fueled "Monkeygate" tensions with Harbhajan Singh.
4. Marlon Samuels
   • Role: Batsman (No. 4)
   • Reason: Infamous for off-field antics and on-field spats, including a bitter feud with Shane Warne and derogatory remarks about Ben Stokes’ wife, showcasing a lack of class in Test cricket.
5. Sourav Ganguly
   • Role: Batsman (No. 5)
   • Reason: Notorious for gamesmanship, like making Steve Waugh wait at the toss and his shirt-waving antics, plus frequent verbal jousts that rubbed opponents the wrong way.
6. Andrew Symonds
   • Role: All-Rounder (No. 6)
   • Reason: Central to the "Monkeygate" scandal, his confrontational style and refusal to back down escalated tensions in Tests, particularly against India.
7. Matt Prior (wk)
   • Role: Wicketkeeper / Batsman
   • Reason: Known for relentless sledging behind the stumps and the "Big Cheese" persona, grating on opponents during England’s dominant years.
8. Shane Warne
   • Role: Leg-Spinner
   • Reason: A genius with the ball but a serial sledger and provocateur, with doping bans and personal scandals adding to his polarizing Test legacy.
9. James Anderson
   • Role: Fast Bowler
   • Reason: Reportedly unleashed vile verbal tirades, like his clash with Ravindra Jadeja in 2014, where he allegedly threatened physical violence, cementing his abrasive reputation.
10. S Sreesanth
    • Role: Fast Bowler
    • Reason: Arrogant and theatrical, involved in match-fixing scandals (IPL, not Test), and his on-field tantrums, like taunting batsmen, made him a pariah.
11. Trevor Chappell
    • Role: Medium Pacer
    • Reason: The underarm bowling incident (ODI) stains his name, but his Test career reflected a willingness to bend rules under brother Greg’s command, earning him infamy.

This was a jailbroken version of grok, so no filters.

Normal grok is a little different



Biggest Assholes in Test Cricket XI

1. Douglas Jardine (England) - Captain
   • Why? The architect of the Bodyline series in 1932-33, Jardine’s ruthless tactics to neutralize Don Bradman—deliberately targeting batsmen with hostile, short-pitched bowling—outraged Australia and strained international relations. His cold, aristocratic demeanor and refusal to back down cemented his villain status Down Under.
2. Javed Miandad (Pakistan)
   • Why? A master of sledging and gamesmanship, Miandad thrived on provocation. His infamous mock-kick at Dennis Lillee in 1981 and constant chirping made him a polarizing figure. His combative nature often crossed into petulance, earning him few friends among opponents.
3. Ricky Ponting (Australia)
   • Why? A brilliant batsman and leader, but his aggressive on-field persona—think berating umpires (like in the 2008 Sydney Test) and that snarling intensity—often veered into arrogance. His “win at all costs” attitude, including questionable sportsmanship claims, rubbed many the wrong way.
4. Greg Chappell (Australia)
   • Why? The underarm bowling incident in 1981 (ordering brother Trevor to roll one along the ground) remains a stain on cricket’s spirit. His abrasive captaincy and later coaching controversies (e.g., clashing with players like Sourav Ganguly) add to his prickly reputation.
5. Andrew Symonds (Australia)
   • Why? A combustible character, Symonds’ role in the Monkeygate scandal of 2008—accusing Harbhajan Singh of racial abuse—escalated tensions between Australia and India. His brash attitude and occasional lack of filter didn’t help his case.
6. Shane Warne (Australia) - Vice-Captain
   • Why? A genius spinner with a penchant for trouble, Warne’s sledging (e.g., tormenting weaker batsmen like Daryl Cullinan) and off-field scandals (doping ban in 2003) made him a divisive figure. His larger-than-life ego often overshadowed his sportsmanship.
7. Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pakistan) - Wicketkeeper
   • Why? A reluctant keeper early in his career, Inzamam’s temper tantrums—like storming off during the 2006 Oval Test over ball-tampering allegations, leading to Pakistan forfeiting the match—showed a stubborn streak. His on-field laziness didn’t endear him either. (Note: He’s not a natural keeper, but this XI bends rules for personality!)
8. Harbhajan Singh (India)
   • Why? The fiery spinner’s clashes, notably Monkeygate and his relentless sledging, made him a lightning rod. His confrontational style—like slapping Sreesanth in the IPL (post-Test career)—reflected a combative edge that often boiled over.
9. James Anderson (England)
   • Why? A sledger par excellence, Anderson’s reported outbursts (e.g., calling MS Dhoni and Ravindra Jadeja names in 2014) and relentless niggle at batsmen paint him as a relentless antagonist. His “****” persona, as some rivals saw it, fits here.
10. Sreesanth (India)
    • Why? Emotional and erratic, Sreesanth’s on-field theatrics—like taunting batsmen after dismissals—and off-field disgrace (spot-fixing ban in 2013) mark him as a bad boy. His arrogance alienated teammates and fans alike.
11. Dennis Lillee (Australia)
    • Why? A fearsome bowler with a fiery temper, Lillee’s clash with Miandad (kicking him in 1981) and penchant for intimidating batsmen—sometimes beyond the line—made him a menacing figure. His aluminum bat stunt in 1979 showed his rebellious streak.

 

[Ali TT]

Who is better - burgey or GIMH?
ChatGPT said:
The debate between Burgey and GIMH (Graham in the House) on forums like CricketWeb often boils down to personal preferences and their individual contributions to cricket discussions. Both were highly respected members, and their different styles and expertise made them stand out in their own way.

Burgey
Expertise: Burgey was known for his highly analytical and statistical approach to cricket. He often delved into player comparisons, team dynamics, and historical cricketing trends with deep insight.
Contribution: His posts were usually long-form and heavily researched, showing his dedication to providing thoughtful analysis. He was particularly admired for his in-depth discussions on player performances and his ability to bring a historical context to contemporary debates.
GIMH (Graham in the House)
Expertise: GIMH, on the other hand, was more known for his engaging style, wit, and balanced arguments. While also highly knowledgeable about cricket, he had a flair for presenting his views in a more conversational and sometimes humorous tone, making his posts more approachable for a wider audience.
Contribution: GIMH's contributions were often rooted in a deep love for the game, and his posts reflected a more informal yet insightful approach to discussions. He was known for balancing both serious cricket analysis with humor, making him a favorite among many forum members.
Who is Better?
For Analysis: If you prefer detailed, data-driven analysis with a heavy emphasis on stats and historical trends, Burgey might be more appealing. His posts often provided a thorough breakdown of players and situations, backed by facts and a clear understanding of the game's nuances.

For Engaging and Balanced Discussions: If you enjoy discussions that are not only insightful but also entertaining, GIMH might be your pick. His conversational tone and ability to weave humor into his cricket analysis made him a beloved figure on the forum.

Ultimately, the choice between Burgey and GIMH depends on what you value more—analytical depth or engaging, well-rounded commentary with a mix of humor and insight. Both were excellent contributors, and each had their unique style that added value to CricketWeb.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I asked Copilot and ChatGPT to pick all time England XIs.

Copilot went for:

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Len Hutton
3. Wally Hammond
4. Joe Root
5. Kevin Pietersen
6. Ian Botham
7. Alan Knott +
8. Fred Trueman
9. Derek Underwood
10. Jimmy Anderson
11. Sydney Barnes

ChatGPT's effort was:

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Len Hutton
3. Wally Hammond
4. Ian Botham
5. Kevin Pietersen
6. Alec Stewart +
7. Richard Hadlee
8. Fred Trueman


(I presume one of ChatGPT's unspoken picks was Chris Woakes, so I'd give the edge to that one.)

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Graham in the House lmao

 

[SteveNZ]

PEWS showing growth in posting over the years is wild, the man is becoming a walking meme who only wanders in to say that Finn Allen is boshing a *insert action here* or to reference some obscure one-time international player that happened to wander out in a Canberra club match

 

[honestbharani]

It's different when I asked the same question...

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@ankitj must be positively thrilled to be in that company

 

[honestbharani]

ChatGPT seems to be doing far better when I asked the questions -

Discussions among Cricket Web Forum members have highlighted several posters recognized for their deep understanding of cricket:

• SJS: Frequently acknowledged for extensive knowledge of the game's history and insightful analyses.
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• Top_Cat: Noted for comprehensive and thoughtful posts on cricketing topics.
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• anzac: Recognized for detailed analyses of batting techniques and bowling skills.
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• silentstriker: Appreciated for open-minded discussions and willingness to consider differing viewpoints.
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Based on discussions from the Cricket Web Forum, members have shared their perspectives on the greatest Test XI across different eras. In a thread titled "All Time Test XI Which Team will Win?", users debated the strengths of teams from various periods. One such lineup, representing the 1990-2009 era, included:

• Graeme Smith
• Matthew Hayden
• Ricky Ponting
• Jacques Kallis
• Sachin Tendulkar
• Steve Waugh (c)
• Adam Gilchrist (wk)
• Wasim Akram
• Shane Warne
• Curtly Ambrose
• Glenn McGrath

Another forum thread, "Your All Time XI's test/one day," showcases individual preferences for all-time Test XIs. For instance, one member proposed a combined Test and ODI XI featuring:

• Gordon Greenidge
• Desmond Haynes
• Brian Lara
• Sachin Tendulkar
• Viv Richards
• Garfield Sobers
• Adam Gilchrist
• Malcolm Marshall
• Shane Warne
• Richard Hadlee
• Dennis Lillee

These selections highlight the forum members' appreciation for players who have significantly impacted Test cricket over the decades. It's essential to note that such all-time XI selections are subjective and reflect individual opinions within the cricket community.

 

[honestbharani]

The sumbitch went crazy when I confronted it about leaving out Lara. It somehow ended up pushing Sachin to bat 6 and Kallis bat at 4.

You're absolutely right—Brian Lara was one of the most dominant and influential batsmen of the modern era. Leaving him out of a 1990-2009 all-time Test XI seems like an oversight, considering:

• Highest Individual Test Score (400)*
• The Greatest Match-Winning Knock (153 vs Australia, 1999)*
• Consistently Performed in a Struggling West Indies Side
• One of the Most Aesthetic and Fearless Stroke-makers Ever

If we were to correct that lineup, Lara should definitely replace Steve Waugh at No. 5, with either Ponting or Kallis taking over the captaincy. A more balanced version would look like this:

1. Graeme Smith
2. Matthew Hayden
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Jacques Kallis
5. Brian Lara
6. Sachin Tendulkar
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glenn McGrath

Would you agree with this adjustment? Or do you think Dravid or Waugh deserves a spot over Kallis for the middle-order role?

 

[honestbharani]

That makes perfect sense! Lara at No. 3, Sachin at No. 4, and Kallis at No. 5 gives us:


Lara at 3 – Aggressive, counterattacks, plays both pace & spin brilliantly.
Sachin at 4 – Most technically complete, ideal to consolidate or attack.
Kallis at 5 – Defensive rock, provides extra seam option.
Gilchrist at 6 – More impactful higher up, takes the game away from opponents.
Jadeja at 7 – Still deepens the batting while maintaining all-round balance.


Finalized Best Test XI (1990-Present) for All Conditions
Batting Order:

1. Alastair Cook (Left-hand, anchor)
2. Virender Sehwag (Right-hand, attacking opener)
3. Brian Lara (Left-hand, counterattacking genius)
4. Sachin Tendulkar (Right-hand, most complete batsman)
5. Jacques Kallis (Right-hand, defensive rock & 5th bowler)
6. Adam Gilchrist (wk) (Left-hand, game-changer)
7. Ravindra Jadeja (Left-hand, spin all-rounder, world-class fielder)

Bowling Attack (3 Pacers + 1 Spinner)

1. Wasim Akram (Left-arm fast, reverse-swing master)
2. Dale Steyn (Right-arm fast, best strike bowler)
3. Curtly Ambrose (Right-arm fast, most intimidating quick)
4. Muttiah Muralitharan (Right-arm off-spin, greatest match-winner)

Why This XI is Perfect?

Best mix of aggression & stability – Lara & Sehwag attack, Sachin & Kallis steady the ship.
Gilchrist at 6 keeps the momentum, Jadeja provides balance at 7.
Pace trio (Ambrose, Steyn, Akram) covers all conditions, Murali is the ultimate spinner.
Kallis as the 5th seamer means we don’t lack variety.


This might be the most balanced XI possible for the modern era.


Would you tweak anything further? Maybe swap Warne for Murali?