Adam Gilchrist

[Craig]

His bat is like some club.

 

[Eclipse]

I despise Gilchrist but still watched the highlights, because I was expecting big things. Of course, it being Gilchrist and all, I was left feeling very disappointed.

I must commend him however for scoring so few boundaries in his innings. It was amazing that he scored 100 off 89 but only 30 of them were in boundaries, it just wasn't good for my highlights viewing:P Must have been excellent collecting the ones and twos but unfortunately I didn't see it.

In general this innings summed Gilchrist up perfectly. He started off with a nick over slips, got dropped 3 times, had a few slogs and tin-arsed his way to 172 while being ugly as arse all the way through. Really wish he'd hold the bat lower down.

lol people do really go over the top in there description's of a droped catch.

only one of those catches was actualy catchable so or though the feilder may have got a hand on the ball thats about the best he could possibly have done.

 

[Richard]

I don't think you're getting it. He's agreeing with you. His comment was to the person who claimed that Bevan isn't great because he has many not outs. In respect to that topic, it's appropriate to say that it's "not Bevan's fault" meaning, "you can't take credit away from Bevan for bowlers who can't get him out!" It's a different way of saying the exact same thing! :rolleyes:

I'm perfectly well aware me and Neil are in agreeance, and I'm greatful to find someone else who disputes this insane view.
I just think cricket study is at times too concerned with saying "it's not his fault" when fault doesn't matter - credit does.

Not necessarily when you're batting at 6 or 7. Ask him to open and we'll see how many not-outs he has.
Bevan's good. Maybe even great. But not the best.

No, don't ask Bevan to open, because he's not an opener.
You DON'T try to make good middle-order players into openers.
However, Bevan has batted three in domestic cricket many, many times and has excelled even better than in ODIs (as you would expect).
If you ask Bevan to bat three or four he'll make big scores. If you ask him to bat at six or even seven he'll get lots of not-outs. It's not rocket-science.

 

[Richard]

lol people do really go over the top in there description's of a droped catch.

only one of those catches was actualy catchable so or though the feilder may have got a hand on the ball thats about the best he could possibly have done.

I don't go over the top in describing dropped catches. I have always said you must be realistic about what you call a chance. However, I do make more of a deal out of dropped catches than some would like.
However, the fact remains that this was a typical Gilchrist innings - just like the 154, where he was given a life on 17, he got an early let-off (36) and made a massive score.
He made some very ordinary bowlers look ordinary so I don't mind as much as when he swings good Test bowlers for runs. But still, it wasn't as brilliant as it might be made-out.

 

[mavric41]

I:P Must have been excellent collecting the ones and twos but unfortunately I didn't see it.

In general this innings summed Gilchrist up perfectly. He started off with a nick over slips, got dropped 3 times, had a few slogs and tin-arsed his way to 172 while being ugly as arse all the way through. Really wish he'd hold the bat lower down.

What an ungracious way of describing an innings you didn't even see. It was not one of his best but he was in full control of the situation and ran brilliantly between the wickets. Considering it was the second highest score by an Australian in all limited overs cricket and at the time of his dismissal people were talking about it being the first double century in ODI, you are not giving him enough credit.

 

[Thelwell]

Guys does it really mattter if he was/wasnt dropped? At the end of the day the scorecard doesnt have picutres! It simply says Gilchrist 172 - sod the drop catches!!!

How you can describe scoring Gilly's innings as "tin-arsed his way to 172" is ridiculous. Like you said you did watch it, so the comments void. Gillys running between the wickets is an example to all of how it should be done.

Not seen this Wade guy so cant comment but he'd have to be something special to oust Gilly. Cant see it happening for a few years rest. Why is it they play Maher when they rest Gilly for ODI if this Wade guy is good? Who does this guy play for?

Course Gillys the best keeper in the world, whose better? Boucher? do us a favour, the guy has a test average of around 30 and dropped a bucket full of regulation ctaches Vs. Eng in the summer.

I think Bevans average would be completely different if he batted higher up. I reckon if Gilly batted in his position he'd have an average the same as Bevan's.

 

[Jono]

In pure glove work (not batting as well) Taibu is a better keeper than Gilchrist, and Parore was better as well.

However I agree with you regarding Gilchrist's 172. Criticising it because he was dropped is stupid. It was a great knock, the only criticism anyone can realistically make is that it was made against weak opposition.

Not surprisingly the same person that is criticising Gilchrist's innings is the one who doesn't rate Tendulkar's fabulous knock of 98 against Pakistan in the World Cup.

 

[Thelwell]

I've never said I dont rate Sachin, just feel Gilly is the complete ODI player cos he offers somethin in both forms of the game.

Watch tendulkar's knock in the WC and it was first class, especially like the cut iff gully off shoaib for 6 - just a shame he didnt get to 3 figures.

I like sachin tendulkar!

 

[Neil Pickup]

Course Gillys the best keeper in the world, whose better?

1/ Tatenda Taibu
2/ Jack Russell
3/ Wade Seccombe
4/ Prasanna Jayawardene

 

[Tom Halsey]

Bevan's good. Maybe even great. But not the best.

He is the best at what he does. It is impossible to compare him with, say, Sacin Tendulkar, because they have completely different roles.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

1/ Tatenda Taibu
2/ Jack Russell
3/ Wade Seccombe
4/ Prasanna Jayawardene

5/ Chris Read
6/ Rashid Latif

 

[Neil Pickup]

He is the best at what he does. It is impossible to compare him with, say, Sacin Tendulkar, because they have completely different roles.

The most sense you have ever posted.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Thankyou. :P

 

[Neil Pickup]

Thankyou. :P

Should be two words.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Meh, who cares? :P

 

[Thelwell]

Taibu shows promise with bat and gloves, i think his batting is a similar style to tendulkar, surprisingly wristy for a SA player.

I accept jack is a better keeper :rolleyes: but lets be fair jacks international days are long gone, so current its still gilchrist :!(

Read and Latif - open your eyes :O

 

[Tom Halsey]

Taibu shows promise with bat and gloves, i think his batting is a similar style to tendulkar, surprisingly wristy for a SA player.

I assume you mean a Zimbabwe player?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Read and Latif - open your eyes :O

You're suggesting that Gilchrist is a better 'keeper than Latif and Read. For that matter, Boucher...

 

[thierry henry]

What an ungracious way of describing an innings you didn't even see. It was not one of his best but he was in full control of the situation and ran brilliantly between the wickets. Considering it was the second highest score by an Australian in all limited overs cricket and at the time of his dismissal people were talking about it being the first double century in ODI, you are not giving him enough credit.

Well like I say, I did see all of the boundaries and I did see all of the dropped catches. Obviously he ran well and picked up the ones and twos well.

As for dropped catches, they ARE relevant. It's much easier to reach 172 when you get to bat 2 or 3 times in one innings. There were at least 2 genuine chances, plus a difficult one for Blignaut, and the catch that Hondo dropped was an absolute sitter.

 

[Rik]

But an ideal player contributes in more than one form, which is why i think Gilly's the best.

Sachin's an economical ODI bowler and a superb fielder, seriously it's a shock if he misfields. So I'd use your logic to say he's a better player than Gilly because he is "3 dimensional"