Abdul Razzaq

[aussie]

These a good chance Michael Owen will be finished time his twenty eight.

Na mayn, don't think like that for England's sake we should be hoping to see Owen back scoring goals as usual.

 

[luffy]

No

 

[magsi23]

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is

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

is

Laughable.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Na mayn, don't think like that for England's sake we should be hoping to see Owen back scoring goals as usual.

Go Socceroos!

Whoops.

 

[Natman20]

England football team = Overated

Razzaq is a classy and consistent performer an asset to the team but IMO he will never be considered one of the greats of cricket overall. Hell probably turn out to be like Chris Cairns.

 

[Xuhaib]

England football team = Overated

Razzaq is a classy and consistent performer an asset to the team but IMO he will never be considered one of the greats of cricket overall. Hell probably turn out to be like Chris Cairns.

There is an outside chance that he may end up being the only player to score 10000 runs and take 500 wickets, would you still not consider him great?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

England football team = Overated

Razzaq is a classy and consistent performer an asset to the team but IMO he will never be considered one of the greats of cricket overall. Hell probably turn out to be like Chris Cairns.

So consistent that his bowling average of 24.98 after 112 games has risen to 30.24 after a further 106?

He's taken 4 wickets once in the last 23 matches he's bowled in. He's taken 0 wickets 10 times in that period. Since the start of the 2004 ICC Champions Trophy, Abdul Razzaq has played 46 ODI matches. He has taken 48 wickets at 35.70 apiece with an economy rate of 5.30.

In that time he has been fairly consistent with the bat with an average of 31.72 and 5 half-centuries in 40 innings, but as far as these allrounder claims, Razzaq is hardly as world class as he used to be.

His first 120 wickets came at 25podd. His last 120 have cost 35podd. His first 120 came in 89 games. His last 120 have taken 129.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

There is an outside chance that he may end up being the only player to score 10000 runs and take 500 wickets, would still not consider him great?

Considering how long it would take for him to do that, I assure you that he won't be the only player to do so.

That said, he also won't do so at all.

 

[Xuhaib]

Well I believe Razzaq is one of those impact players who may be contributing more then their stats suggest, just look at the last game he went for 6+ an over but he was instumental in choking up Lankans in the death overs and when you see the batting scorecard he got just 38 but those 38 were the actual deciding factor in the end.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Well I believe Razzaq is one of those impact players who may be contributing more then their stats suggest, just look at the last game he went for 6+ an over but he was instumental in choking up Lankans in the death overs and when you see the batting scorecard he got just 38 but those 38 were the actual deciding factor in the end.

How much can he be contributing when he's regularly going for 5+ runs per over and hardly taking bags of wickets?

Yes, he produces the odd stunning allround performances, but those are becoming more and more infrequent. Heck, even Dwayne Smith hits sometimes. In fact, Dwayne Smith is probably a better ODI bowler than Razzaq at the moment.

 

[Xuhaib]

How much can he be contributing when he's regularly going for 5+ runs per over and hardly taking bags of wickets?

Yes, he produces the odd stunning allround performances, but those are becoming more and more infrequent. Heck, even Dwayne Smith hits sometimes. In fact, Dwayne Smith is probably a better ODI bowler than Razzaq at the moment.

Razzaq bowling may have gone down but calling Smith better then Razzaq is like saying Symonds is more effective then Flintoff in tests.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Razzaq bowling may have gone down but calling Smith better then Razzaq is like saying Symonds is more effective then Flintoff in tests.

It's certainly a lot closer than you'd like to believe.

Dwayne Smith's last 17 ODIs (against teams other than Zim):
19 wickets @ 31.94
Econ: 5.01
1x4w, 1x5w
SR: 38.20

Abdul Razzaq's last 17 ODIs (against teams other than Scotland, who he incidentally went 5-0-41-0 against):
18 wickets @ 33.83
Econ: 5.18
1x4w
SR: 38.30

 

[Xuhaib]

It's certainly a lot closer than you'd like to believe.

Dwayne Smith's last 17 ODIs (against teams other than Zim):
19 wickets @ 31.94
Econ: 5.01
1x4w, 1x5w
SR: 38.20

Abdul Razzaq's last 17 ODIs (against teams other than Scotland, who he incidentally went 5-0-41-0 against):
18 wickets @ 33.83
Econ: 5.18
1x4w
SR: 38.30

But Smith dosen't conjure match changing batting performances like Razzaq does.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

But Smith dosen't conjure match changing batting performances like Razzaq does.

Batting isn't the issue here.

 

[Xuhaib]

Batting isn't the issue here.

We are looking at the whole package.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

We are looking at the whole package.

No, I'm fairly certain the debate has been about his bowling. Read it over.

 

[Xuhaib]

No, I'm fairly certain the debate has been about his bowling. Read it over.

Oh Okies, fair enough

 

[SJS]

Will Razzaq become the all time ODI leading wicket taker?

Yes of course. But before that he will be the next Queen of England.