Abdul Qadir vs. Saqlain Mushtaq

[marc71178]

Wasn't "mushy" mostly Mushtaq Ahmed nickname?

Yes, Saqlain is "Saqqy"

 

[Jono]

Yep that's right Marc. Saqqy and Mushy. That brings back memories lol.

 

[Pratters]

But He wasn't the turner of test matches I remember leg-spinner Abul Qadir was. Qadir was easily the best spinner of his era and one of the Pakistani players everyone watched wherever they went.

Those 20 wickets he took versus India in 2 tests with 4 consecutive 5 fors were among the best pieces of bowling I have seen.

I refuse to believe that Saqlain was a poor test bowler despite the stats.

 

[Pratters]

I haven't watched any thing of Qadir but would love to. I have read some of his interviews and the guy still has so much passion for leg spin, I simply love reading on Qadir.

Having watched most of Saqlain in cricket, I am biased towards him...

But I am not in a position to comment who has been the better of the two.

 

[Sanz]

At their peak, Saqlain, over all Qadir.

 

[Xuhaib]

Originally Posted by Pratyush
I refuse to believe that Saqlain was a poor test bowler despite the stats.

Poor stats?. Go check out cricinfo his test record is very similar to Harbhajan and the average only inflated during the last 3-4 tests when he was having multiple problems with his cricket and life on the whole. I can remember atleast 5-6 test matches which Saqlain won for Pakistan.

 

[Xuhaib]

Btw for me its a tie since i enjoyed both of them equally

 

[Xuhaib]

At their peak, Saqlain, over all Qadir.

Qadir at his peak was near to warnie. Ask the poor english and westindian batsman during the 85-88 period.

 

[Sanz]

Qadir at his peak was near to warnie. Ask the poor english and westindian batsman during the 85-88 period.

And IMO Saqlain at his peak was better than Warnie.Dont need ask anyone, saw it myself in 1998-1999.

 

[Pratters]

Poor stats?. Go check out cricinfo his test record is very similar to Harbhajan and the average only inflated during the last 3-4 tests when he was having multiple problems with his cricket and life on the whole. I can remember atleast 5-6 test matches which Saqlain won for Pakistan.

I said despite the stats. Not despite the poor stats. There is a difference. Saqlain's stats do not do him justice IMO and that is the reason I stated what I did. Some people do think Saqlain was a poor player in tests as truewickjoer said when he stated that Saqlain was not a turner of matches. My response was to him.

I don't see why you bring in a Harbhajan Singh comparison.

 

[Xuhaib]

I said despite the stats. Not despite the poor stats. There is a difference. Saqlain's stats do not do him justice IMO and that is the reason I stated what I did. Some people do think Saqlain was a poor player in tests as truewickjoer said when he stated that Saqlain was not a turner of matches. My response was to him.

I don't see why you bring in a Harbhajan Singh comparison.

Well i misunderstood u. I was thinking u mean that Saqlain in your oponion is a good bowler even though his stats are poor. So i was pointing out that his stats are not bad and infact are very close to Harbhajan's

 

[Armadillo]

Sorry my Pakistini brother.

Wrong again.

 

[Francis]

My spelling problems aside...

And IMO Saqlain at his peak was better than Warnie.Dont need ask anyone, saw it myself in 1998-1999.

In one-dayers, maybe. In tests, Warne from 1993-1997... or maybe from 1994-1997 was the best display of bowling ever and if somebody said it was the best bowling peak ever, I wouldn't blink.

 

[Swervy]

I am going to go with Qadir at his peak over Saqlain at his peak, but then again, both bowlers were of a completely different style, and so comparisons between the two dont sit well with me

 

[neutralguy]

Qadir by miles than saqlain. i had the privilege to watch both the players at their peak in their 80's and 90's respectively.
Qadir has a funny action though and could turn test matches very quickly in short spells . His famous bunnies are england and windies though.New zealanders also are not far behind.He did not play much county cricket to preserve his masterclass variations in spin from leaking out.All in all a class.
Saqlain..Lot of current guys know about him..so not much comments. But very good though.

 

[IndianByHeart]

Qadir as a test bowler, while Saqlain as a one day bowler.

 

[Fanboy375]

I've no idea myself, haven't really seen any of them play.

Have you been a cricket fan for long? Because it wasn't that long ago that Mushtaq was the best one-day bowler in the world... even if it was for a short time.

I still hear the Pakistinian keeper saying "Good bowling Mushy." Classic stuff. That lad turned games on their head in the crucial overs.

Qadir was the leg-spinner from the 80s with a wacky action who went very overlooked as being a brilliant bowler. It sort of shines a light on the virtues of Warne's charisma, because Warne reinvigourated spin in the game, but there were great leggies inbetween O'Riely and Warne such as Qadir and Benaud. Warne just captured people's imagination more than Qadir. Make no mistake about it though, Qadir was great and he and Mushy are very close.

Fun fact:Saqlain Mushtaq is as old as Saeed Ajmal

 

[Coronis]

Fun fact:Saqlain Mushtaq is as old as Saeed Ajmal

…. This post is not worth an 18 year bump.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Fun fact:Saqlain Mushtaq is as old as Saeed Ajmal

What the actual ****!!!?? I refused to believe it even after Googling

 

[shortpitched713]

What the actual ****!!!?? I refused to believe it even after Googling

This is a crazy fact.

There was a 4 year gap from after Saqlain played his last international match to when Ajmal debuted in his first.

I guess, between the two of them they would have had a really solid 20 year career in all 3 formats.