AA Dropped !!

[Sudeep]

And a better fielder too.

Tell me you're joking.

It's evidently visible that the problem with Nehra's fielding isn't only fitness; it has a lot to do with his attitude as well.

 

[Arjun]

Tell me you're joking.

It's evidently visible that the problem with Nehra's fielding isn't only fitness; it has a lot to do with his attitude as well.

IF he was better, he would have been a better fielder. And a lot better if he was more positive. I hope he's dropped once, so that he learns it the hard way. That will help him a lot.

 

[Sudeep]

IF he was better, he would have been a better fielder. And a lot better if he was more positive. I hope he's dropped once, so that he learns it the hard way. That will help him a lot.

Well all the time out of action with injury hasn't sure helped change that attitude; not sure if an axe will.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Yes, but just because of that one final over you cannot compromise on the other nine the bowler is allowed to bowl.

Who picks up more wickets in those nine overs, Agarkar or Nehra?

Excellent point.

A bowler is not picked as a 1-over specialist. If Agarkar is that bad and Ganguly is a half-decent captain, he'd have Super-Pathan or his sidekick Wonder-Balaji bowl that over.

 

[lord_of_darkness]

Bwahaha .. Agarkar got what he deserved..

 

[V Reddy]

It's evidently visible that the problem with Nehra's fielding isn't only fitness; it has a lot to do with his attitude as well.

Yup i agree . He fielded superbly in Pakistan and i think that has got to do with India playing Vs Pakistan

 

[Arjun]

There are no legends, but there is a lot of competition, so this move may actually be a good one. If this is the 'rotation' that John Wright hinted at (he doesn't agree with it), then we may be back to square one in the next series.

 

[Deja moo]

You clearly do not get the irony of the AAAS.

Not one of us will claim him the best.

I claim that he is the best .

He just prefers not to give the other cricketers an inferiority complex .

 

[masterblaster]

Ajit Agarkar's ODI Career Summary:

Matches: 127
Wickets: 193
Best Bowling: 6/42 v Australia
Average: 27.79
RPO: 5.11
Strike Rate: 32.6
4 Wicket Hauls: 8
5 Wicket Hauls: 1

I say its a rather good record, its very unfair that he was dropped.

Compared to Nehra's ODI Career Summary:

Matches: 46
Wickets: 54
Best Bowling: 6/23 v England
Average: 33.87
RPO: 4.71
Strike Rate: 43
4 Wicket Hauls: 1
5 Wicket Hauls: 1

Interesting to see that Agarkar averages 29 against the Aussies while Nehra averages 84.33 and Nehra conceeds 6.32 runs per over against Australia.

Nehra keeps his already high bowling average down due to good performances against England, Kenya and Sri Lanka, while suffering at the hands of Australia and South Africa.

His record against the likes of Pakistan and New Zealand is average at best.

Nehra also cannot bat and field to save his life. This decision by the selectors gets even more baffling the more I think about it.

 

[Deja moo]

Ajit Agarkar's ODI Career Summary:

Matches: 127
Wickets: 193
Best Bowling: 6/42 v Australia
Average: 27.79
RPO: 5.11
Strike Rate: 32.6
4 Wicket Hauls: 8
5 Wicket Hauls: 1

I say its a rather good record, its very unfair that he was dropped.

Compared to Nehra's ODI Career Summary:

Matches: 46
Wickets: 54
Best Bowling: 6/23 v England
Average: 33.87
RPO: 4.71
Strike Rate: 43
4 Wicket Hauls: 1
5 Wicket Hauls: 1

Interesting to see that Agarkar averages 29 against the Aussies while Nehra averages 84.33 and Nehra conceeds 6.32 runs per over against Australia.

Nehra keeps his already high bowling average down due to good performances against England, Kenya and Sri Lanka, while suffering at the hands of Australia and South Africa.

His record against the likes of Pakistan and New Zealand is average at best.

Nehra also cannot bat and field to save his life. This decision by the selectors gets even more baffling the more I think about it.

Yet some guys cant accept fact .

 

[Deja moo]

AA scored a century in a practice match during the Chennai camp .

Yes , he did .

It was against a bowling attack of Zaheer , Nehra , Pathan , Kumble .

 

[Mingster]

About time he scored another one don't you think especially seeing how many of you loathe about his incredible batting ability to have him classifed as an allrounder?

 

[Arjun]

Brad Williams has played for about two years and has a bowling average of 22 and 2 five-wicket hauls. Matthew Sinclair has a batting average of close to 40. Are these two crucial for their teams? I doubt it. They don't have any real effect on their teams' performances. Brett Lee is a far better bowler than Agarkar, and he scores 50's from low positions. Bichel can also bat his team out of trouble and bowl well enough to walk into an Indian starting lineup. Would you call either an all-rounder? Besides, the Indian pace scene is not a one man show any more.

 

[marc71178]

Yet some guys cant accept fact .

What fact?!

 

[marc71178]

About time he scored another one don't you think especially seeing how many of you loathe about his incredible batting ability to have him classifed as an allrounder?

You really don't get it do you?

Nobody rates him as an all-rounder - it was that once-in-a-lifetime fluke Test Century at Lords that caused a few people (now long since gone) to claim he was going to show how he's the best allrounder in the World.

Thus was formed the AAAS.

 

[Sudeep]

Brad Williams has played for about two years and has a bowling average of 22 and 2 five-wicket hauls. Matthew Sinclair has a batting average of close to 40. Are these two crucial for their teams? I doubt it. They don't have any real effect on their teams' performances. Brett Lee is a far better bowler than Agarkar, and he scores 50's from low positions. Bichel can also bat his team out of trouble and bowl well enough to walk into an Indian starting lineup. Would you call either an all-rounder? Besides, the Indian pace scene is not a one man show any more.

Brett Lee might be a better bowler than Agarkar, but the point is Agarkar is one of the best we have, if not the best. I can't say with confidence that we have a better bowler than him ATM.

And he's without doubt better than Nehra, by miles.

 

[Arjun]

If he is the best bowler in India, then there is a lack of depth and quality in fast bowling, but that is not so true these days. Pathan and Balaji are shaping up well, and you have Salvi, Bhandari and Trivedi in the reserves. Agarkar is no doubt better than them, but he's not as good as Williams, Bracken, or Lee, let alone Pollock, McGrath, Vaas or Harmison, so he is not indispensable. The Indian team has just won 4 ODI series in the last 4 years when he has played, while the last ODI series victory was achieved without Agarkar.

Given a chance, the fast bowling reserves can prove themselves at the international level, just like Williams and Bracken.

Agarkar is not an ideal strike bowler, but he can perform the Ian Harvey role better.

They can win without him too.

As for Nehra, it all boils down to one word- fitness. This is where Greg King will play an important role. Nehra can dominate a match, as in Kingsmead. Agarkar never could, except against minnows.

 

[Sudeep]

If he is the best bowler in India, then there is a lack of depth and quality in fast bowling, but that is not so true these days. Pathan and Balaji are shaping up well, and you have Salvi, Bhandari and Trivedi in the reserves. Agarkar is no doubt better than them, but he's not as good as Williams, Bracken, or Lee, let alone Pollock, McGrath, Vaas or Harmison, so he is not indispensable. The Indian team has just won 4 ODI series in the last 4 years when he has played, while the last ODI series victory was achieved without Agarkar.

Given a chance, the fast bowling reserves can prove themselves at the international level, just like Williams and Bracken.

Agarkar is not an ideal strike bowler, but he can perform the Ian Harvey role better.

They can win without him too.

As for Nehra, it all boils down to one word- fitness. This is where Greg King will play an important role. Nehra can dominate a match, as in Kingsmead. Agarkar never could, except against minnows.

Yes, while the rest are "shaping up" we need one who's established himself. And that's why Agarkar needs to be in the side.

I don't understand why there's this hype that India's developing pace bowlers aplenty. How many pacemen have been used in the last decade, who we now never hear of? If a player like Nehra makes our national side, that speaks of the sad state of it. As I said earlier, the problem with Nehra is not only his fitness, but his attitude.

 

[Andre]

Out of curiosity Arjun, where do you get this idea that Williams and Bracken are 'proven' international bowlers?

Williams - fair enough based on his ODI record. In Test matches though, he is far from proven, although I'll be interested to see what he does in the future if he plays again.

Bracken, meanwhile, had 1 good series and came back to earth - and reality - with a thud, confirming what we all thought very early - he was a very ordinary bowler.

AA, meanwhile, has achieved far more than both on the international scene to date - he's certainly not even close to the Harvey mould that you suggest. At this stage, AA is India's number 1 pace strike option in my view.

And as for depth in the Indian pace ranks... Well, that's as ambitious as suggesting Bracken is world class.

 

[Sanz]

If he is the best bowler in India, then there is a lack of depth and quality in fast bowling, but that is not so true these days. Pathan and Balaji are shaping up well, and you have Salvi, Bhandari and Trivedi in the reserves. Agarkar is no doubt better than them, but he's not as good as Williams, Bracken, or Lee, let alone Pollock, McGrath, Vaas or Harmison, so he is not indispensable. The Indian team has just won 4 ODI series in the last 4 years when he has played, while the last ODI series victory was achieved without Agarkar.

Given a chance, the fast bowling reserves can prove themselves at the international level, just like Williams and Bracken.

Agarkar is not an ideal strike bowler, but he can perform the Ian Harvey role better.

They can win without him too.

As for Nehra, it all boils down to one word- fitness. This is where Greg King will play an important role. Nehra can dominate a match, as in Kingsmead. Agarkar never could, except against minnows.

Arjun, In case you didn't know, Cricket is a Team game and Agarkar couldn't win a series on his own, other bowlers and batsmen had to perform as well, didn't they ?? Nehra is a pathetic fielder and no coach can improve it.

It's funny that you talk about Kingsmead, did you read about the weather as well ?? As for Agarkar dominating, remember the series against Australia and the test we won ??