A team of 11 spinners !

Prince EWS · Nov 23, 2005

I left MacGill out purely due to the fact that I wanted more batting.

I was looking for batsmen who were spinners to fill those spots. Kumble, Murali and Warne take out the "specialist bowlers" positions, as I believe they are all superior to MacGill. Putting MacGill in for say, Dilshan, would result in having Giles bat #7, which wouldnt have been very practical. I guess he could have come in for Giles, but again, I was looking for batting when I picked Giles.

Sanz · Nov 23, 2005

Mankad,G Pollock, Sobers, Simpson, Ravi Shastri, Benaud, Warne, Murali, Laker, Qadir, Bedi

Not a bad team, huh.

JASON · Nov 23, 2005

Does anyone have an all time spinners ratings list ?

I would think Baghwad Chandrasekhar and Bishen Singh Bedi must be quite high on that list along with Jim Laker. Where would Lance Gibbs fit there ? Also Abdul Quadir / Clarrie Grimmett/ Tiger O Reilly etc where would they rate in such a list ?

*Lots of questions , no answers

*

chaminda_00 · Nov 23, 2005

JASON said:
Does anyone have an all time spinners ratings list ?

I would think Baghwad Chandrasekhar and Bishen Singh Bedi must be quite high on that list along with Jim Laker. Where would Lance Gibbs fit there ? Also Abdul Quadir / Clarrie Grimmett/ Tiger O Reilly etc where would they rate in such a list ?

*Lots of questions , no answers *

The top 10 in terms of wickets is:
1. S Warne
2. M Muralitharan
3. A Kumble
4. L Gibbs
5. D Underwood
6. B Bedi
7. R Benaud
8. B Chandrasekhar
9. Abdul Qadir
10. C Grimmett

The top 10 in terms of averages is (all bowlers have taken 140odd wickets):
1. J Laker
2. M Muralitharan
3. H Trumble
4. B O'Reilly
5. C Grimmett
6. H Verity
7. S Warne
8. D Underwood
9. H Tayfield
10. R Benuad

JASON · Nov 23, 2005

chaminda_00 said:
The top 10 in terms of wickets is:
1. S Warne
2. M Muralitharan
3. A Kumble
4. L Gibbs
5. D Underwood
6. B Bedi
7. R Benaud
8. B Chandrasekhar
9. Abdul Qadir
10. C Grimmett

The top 10 in terms of averages is (all bowlers have taken 140odd wickets):
1. J Laker
2. M Muralitharan
3. H Trumble
4. B O'Reilly
5. C Grimmett
6. S Warne
7. D Underwood
8. H Tayfield
9. R Benuad
10. S MacGill

I do have access to these. Thats not what I was after .

What I was after was a ratings profile taking into consideration various factors as some cricket analysts and authors have done.

The ratings are based not on number of wickets or averages , but taking into consideration quality of wickets, away wickets vs home wickets etc. etc.

That IMO would be the ideal ratings analysis .

Pratters · Nov 23, 2005

MacGill vs Kumble

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(6 ball overs)       Mat    O       R   W   BBI    BBM     Ave  Econ    SR  5 10

MacGill
Kumble

overall               35 1516    4780 174  7/50  12/107  27.47  3.15  52.2 11  2
                      97 5110   13200 465 10/74  14/149  28.38  2.58  65.9 29  7

v Australia            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      14  806    2391  88  8/141 13/181  27.17  2.96  54.9  9  2
v Bangladesh           2   70.1   219  17  5/56  10/133  12.88  3.12  24.7  3  1
                       2   56.5   144  10  4/55   6/57   14.40  2.53  34.1  0  0
v England              6  354.2   964  39  7/50  12/107  24.71  2.72  54.5  3  1
                      13  728.2  1864  62  7/115 10/233  30.06  2.55  70.4  3  1
v ICC World XI         1   24.1    82   9  5/43   9/82    9.11  3.39  16.1  1  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
v India                4  194.4   711  14  4/86   5/138  50.78  3.65  83.4  0  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
v New Zealand          0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      11  601.4  1293  50  6/67  10/134  25.86  2.14  72.2  3  1
v Pakistan             4  174.4   582  23  5/66   9/113  25.30  3.33  45.5  2  0
                       9  492.5  1484  54 10/74  14/149  27.48  3.01  54.7  4  2
v South Africa         2  101.2   308  12  4/123  7/174  25.66  3.03  50.6  0  0
                      16  906.2  2084  66  6/53   8/113  31.57  2.29  82.3  3  0
v Sri Lanka            2   55.2   232   5  4/74   5/143  46.40  4.19  66.4  0  0
                      12  588.5  1535  46  7/59  11/128  33.36  2.60  76.8  2  1
v West Indies         13  516.4  1618  53  7/104  9/182  30.52  3.13  58.4  2  0
                      13  559    1546  51  5/30   8/196  30.31  2.76  65.7  3  0
v Zimbabwe             1   24.4    64   2  2/54   2/64   32.00  2.59  74.0  0  0
                       7  370.1   859  38  5/63   9/145  22.60  2.32  58.4  2  0

in Australia          22 1009.2  3106 122  7/50  12/107  25.45  3.07  49.6  9  2
                       6  352.3  1160  29  8/141 12/279  40.00  3.29  72.9  3  1
in Bangladesh          0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       2   56.5   144  10  4/55   6/57   14.40  2.53  34.1  0  0
in England             0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       7  381.1  1008  22  4/66   7/159  45.81  2.64 103.9  0  0
in India               0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      50 2751.3  6864 289 10/74  14/149  23.75  2.49  57.1 21  6
in New Zealand         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3  191.3   443  11  4/83   6/153  40.27  2.31 104.4  0  0
in Pakistan            3  127.4   412  15  5/66   9/113  27.46  3.22  51.0  1  0
                       3  130.3   389  15  6/72   8/172  25.93  2.98  52.2  1  0
in South Africa        0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       9  501.5  1095  31  6/53   8/113  35.32  2.18  97.1  1  0
in Sri Lanka           2   55.2   232   5  4/74   5/143  46.40  4.19  66.4  0  0
                       6  330.2   939  22  5/87   8/172  42.68  2.84  90.0  1  0
in West Indies         8  323.4  1030  32  5/75   9/182  32.18  3.18  60.6  1  0
                       7  259.5   750  22  5/104  8/196  34.09  2.88  70.8  2  0
in Zimbabwe            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       4  154     408  14  4/87   7/129  29.14  2.64  66.0  0  0

in Africa              0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      13  655.5  1503  45  6/53   8/113  33.40  2.29  87.4  1  0
in Americas            8  323.4  1030  32  5/75   9/182  32.18  3.18  60.6  1  0
                       7  259.5   750  22  5/104  8/196  34.09  2.88  70.8  2  0
in Asia                5  183     644  20  5/66   9/113  32.20  3.51  54.9  1  0
                      61 3269.1  8336 336 10/74  14/149  24.80  2.54  58.3 23  6
in Europe              0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       7  381.1  1008  22  4/66   7/159  45.81  2.64 103.9  0  0
in Oceania            22 1009.2  3106 122  7/50  12/107  25.45  3.07  49.6  9  2
                       9  544    1603  40  8/141 12/279  40.07  2.94  81.6  3  1

home                  22 1009.2  3106 122  7/50  12/107  25.45  3.07  49.6  9  2
                      50 2751.3  6864 289 10/74  14/149  23.75  2.49  57.1 21  6
away                  13  506.4  1674  52  5/66   9/113  32.19  3.30  58.4  2  0
                      47 2358.3  6336 176  8/141 12/279  36.00  2.68  80.4  8  1

1990                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       1   60     170   3  3/105  3/170  56.66  2.83 120.0  0  0
1992                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       4  228.5   440  17  6/53   8/113  25.88  1.92  80.7  1  0
1993                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       8  473.2  1072  46  6/64   8/125  23.30  2.26  61.7  3  0
1994                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       7  332.2   828  33  7/59  11/128  25.09  2.49  60.4  1  1
1995                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3   72.2   152  10  5/81   9/120  15.20  2.10  43.4  1  0
1996                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       8  389.3   938  29  5/67   9/130  32.34  2.40  80.5  1  0
1997                   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      12  582.2  1582  36  5/104  8/196  43.94  2.71  97.0  2  0
1998                   7  308.4   917  35  5/66   9/113  26.20  2.97  52.9  1  0
                       5  313.2   698  36  6/98   8/106  19.38  2.22  52.2  2  0
1999                   5  159.5   459  24  7/50  12/107  19.12  2.87  39.9  2  1
                      10  581.5  1461  54 10/74  14/149  27.05  2.51  64.6  4  2
2000                   3   89     309   9  2/37   4/84   34.33  3.47  59.3  0  0
                       3  152     387  12  6/143  6/118  32.25  2.54  76.0  1  0
2001                   1   67     192   7  7/104  7/192  27.42  2.86  57.4  1  0
                       5  258.1   684  24  7/115 10/233  28.50  2.64  64.5  2  1
2002                   2  149.2   434  14  5/152  7/174  31.00  2.90  64.0  1  0
                      10  521    1356  49  5/30   9/145  27.67  2.60  63.7  2  0
2003                  11  524.4  1687  57  5/56  10/133  29.59  3.21  55.2  4  1
                       4  257.3   765  21  6/176  6/153  36.42  2.97  73.5  2  0
2004                   3  109.2   443   6  4/74   5/143  73.83  4.05 109.3  0  0
                      12  613.2  1838  74  8/141 13/181  24.83  2.99  49.7  6  2
2005                   3  108.1   339  22  5/43   9/82   15.40  3.13  29.5  2  0
                       5  274.1   829  21  7/63  10/161  39.47  3.02  78.3  1  1

season 1990            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       1   60     170   3  3/105  3/170  56.66  2.83 120.0  0  0
season 1992/93         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       9  561.4  1137  50  6/53   8/113  22.74  2.02  67.4  3  0
season 1993            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3  140.3   375  13  5/87   8/172  28.84  2.66  64.8  1  0
season 1993/94         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       4  186.3   419  20  7/59  11/128  20.95  2.24  55.9  1  1
season 1994/95         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3  145.5   409  13  4/90   6/176  31.46  2.80  67.3  0  0
season 1995/96         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3   72.2   152  10  5/81   9/120  15.20  2.10  43.4  1  0
season 1996            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3  147     334   5  3/90   3/150  66.80  2.27 176.4  0  0
season 1996/97         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      12  567.1  1477  49  5/67   9/130  30.14  2.60  69.4  3  0
season 1997            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       2  135.4   430   5  3/156  4/207  86.00  3.16 162.8  0  0
season 1997/98         1   36     134   5  3/22   5/134  26.80  3.72  43.2  0  0
                       6  313     695  29  6/98   8/106  23.96  2.22  64.7  2  0
season 1998/99        11  432.3  1242  54  7/50  12/107  23.00  2.87  48.0  3  1
                       7  393.3  1055  42 10/74  14/149  25.11  2.68  56.2  2  1
season 1999/00         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       8  462.4  1075  37  6/67  10/134  29.05  2.32  75.0  3  1
season 2000/01         4  156     501  16  7/104  7/192  31.31  3.21  58.5  1  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
season 2001/02         1   65.2   174   7  4/123  7/174  24.85  2.66  56.0  0  0
                       9  451.4  1149  43  7/115 10/233  26.72  2.54  63.0  3  1
season 2002            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       3  174.1   504  14  4/66   7/159  36.00  2.89  74.6  0  0
season 2002/03         6  373.1  1164  32  5/75   9/182  36.37  3.11  69.9  2  0
                       3  153.2   387  16  5/30   7/101  24.18  2.52  57.5  1  0
season 2003            2   70.1   219  17  5/56  10/133  12.88  3.12  24.7  3  1
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
season 2003/04         7  274.4  1007  21  4/74   5/138  47.95  3.66  78.4  0  0
                       8  476.5  1433  48  8/141 12/279  29.85  3.00  59.6  4  1
season 2004/05         1   47     170   8  5/87   8/170  21.25  3.61  35.2  1  0
                      11  612.1  1814  64  7/48  13/181  28.34  2.96  57.3  5  2
season 2005/06         2   61.1   169  14  5/43   9/82   12.07  2.76  26.2  1  0
                       2   56     185   4  2/71   3/114  46.25  3.30  84.0  0  0

toss won              22  895.3  2783 107  7/50  12/107  26.00  3.10  50.2  7  2
                      53 2572.4  6593 253 10/74  14/149  26.05  2.56  61.0 14  4
toss lost             13  620.3  1997  67  7/104  9/113  29.80  3.21  55.5  4  0
                      44 2537.2  6607 212  7/48  13/181  31.16  2.60  71.8 15  3

toss won & batted     17  726.2  2286  76  7/50  12/107  30.07  3.14  57.3  4  1
                      37 1888.5  4717 201 10/74  14/149  23.46  2.49  56.3 13  4
toss won & fielded     5  169.1   497  31  5/56  10/133  16.03  2.93  32.7  3  1
                      16  683.5  1876  52  6/81   8/133  36.07  2.74  78.9  1  0
toss lost & sent in    3  130.4   364  15  5/75   9/182  24.26  2.78  52.2  1  0
                       6  320.4   687  20  4/134  4/91   34.35  2.14  96.2  0  0
toss lost & fielded   10  489.5  1633  52  7/104  9/113  31.40  3.33  56.5  3  0
                      38 2216.4  5920 192  7/48  13/181  30.83  2.67  69.2 15  3

matches batting 1st   20  857    2650  91  7/50  12/107  29.12  3.09  56.5  5  1
                      43 2209.3  5404 221 10/74  14/149  24.45  2.44  59.9 13  4
matches fielding 1st  15  659    2130  83  7/104 10/133  25.66  3.23  47.6  6  1
                      54 2900.3  7796 244  7/48  13/181  31.95  2.68  71.3 16  3

1st team innings      35  795.2  2511  91  7/104 12/107  27.59  3.15  52.4  5  2
                      97 3095.3  8016 257  8/141 14/149  31.19  2.58  72.2 15  7
2nd team innings      34  720.4  2269  83  7/50  12/107  27.33  3.14  52.0  6  2
                      82 2014.3  5184 208 10/74  14/149  24.92  2.57  58.1 14  7

1st match innings     15  330    1092  43  7/104 10/133  25.39  3.30  46.0  4  1
                      54 1633.4  4310 133  7/48  13/181  32.40  2.63  73.6  8  3
2nd match innings     20  465.2  1419  48  5/57  12/107  29.56  3.04  58.1  1  1
                      41 1461.5  3706 124  8/141 14/149  29.88  2.53  70.7  7  4
3rd match innings     19  461.4  1398  54  5/56  10/133  25.88  3.02  51.2  4  1
                      59 1499    4009 150  7/59  13/181  26.72  2.67  59.9 12  4
4th match innings     15  259     871  29  7/50  12/107  30.03  3.36  53.5  2  1
                      23  515.3  1175  58 10/74  14/149  20.25  2.27  53.3  2  3

no follow-on          31 1266.1  4100 149  7/50  12/107  27.51  3.23  50.9  9  2
                      87 4541.3 11877 395 10/74  14/149  30.06  2.61  68.9 25  6
enforcing a follow-on  4  249.5   680  25  5/75   9/182  27.20  2.72  59.9  2  0
                       9  502.3  1142  67  7/59  11/128  17.04  2.27  45.0  4  1
in team following on   0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       1   66     181   3  3/181  3/181  60.33  2.74 132.0  0  0

matches won           23  963.4  2950 132  7/50  12/107  22.34  3.06  43.8 11  2
                      33 1707.2  4147 223 10/74  14/149  18.59  2.42  45.9 16  4
matches drawn          6  250.5   883  20  4/86   5/134  44.15  3.52  75.2  0  0
                      40 2150.1  5327 154  8/141 13/181  34.59  2.47  83.7  9  3
matches lost           6  301.3   947  22  4/61   7/142  43.04  3.14  82.2  0  0
                      24 1252.3  3726  88  6/70   7/129  42.34  2.97  85.3  4  0

won by an innings      6  190.5   532  35  5/56  10/133  15.20  2.78  32.7  4  1
                      15  754    1779  98  7/59  11/128  18.15  2.35  46.1  6  1
won defending target   8  275.5   853  42  7/50  12/107  20.30  3.09  39.4  3  1
                       8  411    1021  59 10/74  14/149  17.30  2.48  41.7  4  2
won chasing target     9  497    1565  55  7/104  9/182  28.45  3.14  54.2  4  0
                      10  542.2  1347  66  6/67  10/134  20.40  2.48  49.3  6  1
lost by an innings     0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       2  102     269   6  6/143  6/143  44.83  2.63 102.0  1  0
lost defending targ.   2  131     368  12  4/61   7/142  30.66  2.80  65.5  0  0
                      14  712.4  2273  47  6/70   7/129  48.36  3.18  90.9  1  0
lost chasing target    4  170.3   579  10  3/84   4/244  57.90  3.39 102.3  0  0
                       8  437.5  1184  35  6/98   7/161  33.82  2.70  75.0  2  0

5 day matches         34 1491.5  4698 165  7/50  12/107  28.47  3.14  54.2 10  2
                      97 5110   13200 465 10/74  14/149  28.38  2.58  65.9 29  7
6 day matches          1   24.1    82   9  5/43   9/82    9.11  3.39  16.1  1  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -

1st/Only Tests        10  312.3  1009  51  5/43   9/82   19.78  3.22  36.7  3  0
                      35 1892.3  4764 182  7/59  11/128  26.17  2.51  62.3 10  1
2nd Tests              8  310.1  1041  32  5/56  10/133  32.53  3.35  58.1  2  1
                      31 1707.3  4400 173 10/74  14/149  25.43  2.57  59.2 14  5
3rd Tests              9  438.4  1304  45  5/75   9/182  28.97  2.97  58.4  2  0
                      22 1126.4  2983  78  6/98   7/159  38.24  2.64  86.6  3  0
4th Tests              5  262.2   901  22  5/152  7/142  40.95  3.43  71.5  1  0
                       6  278.5   750  26  8/141 12/279  28.84  2.68  64.3  2  1
5th Tests              3  192.2   525  24  7/50  12/107  21.87  2.72  48.0  3  1
                       1    4      30   1  1/30   1/30   30.00  7.50  24.0  0  0

in series lost         0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      34 1726.5  4488 126  7/48  13/181  35.61  2.59  82.2  7  1
in series drawn        8  314.1  1063  26  4/86   5/132  40.88  3.38  72.5  0  0
                      23 1334.2  3818 114 10/74  14/149  33.49  2.86  70.2  6  3
in series won         26 1164.5  3630 143  7/50  12/107  25.38  3.11  48.8 11  2
                      40 2048.5  4894 225  7/59  11/128  21.75  2.38  54.6 16  3
in series leads        1   37      87   5  3/18   5/87   17.40  2.35  44.4  0  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -

They both have a much better average home than away. It shows they are more adept to bowling in home conditions - not an entirely unnatural thing. Their over all average has a difference of less than 1. Add to that the fact that Kumble has played much more than MacGill has.

I dont see how it can be concluded that MacGill is greater than Kumble.

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

1 Rhodes
2 Mankad
3 Sobers
4 Hooper
5 Noble
6 Benaud
7 Warne
8 Lytlleton
9 O'Rielly
10 Murali
11 Barnes

Here is a team of spinners (apologies for the liberty of including Barnes who did bowl fastish leg and off breaks) that can actually compete.

- Other than the keeper the others have atleast 100 test wickets - 2550 between the team !!
- They have at least one five wicket an innings haul - 140 between them. !
- The keeper has the best bowling analysis by a keeper and one oof the best career figures for any bowler !!! By virtue of his 4 for 19 in an innings against Australia, the only time he bowled in a test match !
- The team has 33 10 in a match hauls !

The top seven in the batting order have..
- over 25 thousand runs
- 45 centuries
- 85 fifties

The team has two who can effectively open the bowling Barnes(right arm) and Sobers(left arm) and bowl spin of a huge variey later.

In addition it has another eight of which there are

- three leg spinners (including the two greatest)
- three off spinners (including the greatest)
- two left arm spinners

And, of course, they have the trump card in the HON Alfred Lyttleton !!

PS Oh yes. They also are a great fielding side. A total of 587 test catches betwen them !!!

shaka · Nov 23, 2005

Mark Riggor Richardson

Lyell_Chris · Nov 23, 2005

Allan Border has to in

Batting and fielding averages
class mat inns no runs hs ave bf sr 100 50 4s 6s ct st
Tests 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 1161 28 156 0
ODIs 273 252 39 6524 127* 30.62 9136 71.40 3 39 500 43 127 0
First-class 385 625 97 27131 205 51.38 70 142 379 0
List A 382 353 58 9355 127* 31.71 3 62 183 0

Bowling averages
class mat balls runs wkts bbi bbm ave econ sr 4 5 10
Tests 156 4009 1525 39 7/46 11/96 39.10 2.28 102.79 1 2 1
ODIs 273 2661 2071 73 3/20 3/20 28.36 4.66 36.45 0 0 0
First-class 385 9750 4161 106 7/46 39.25 2.56 91.98 3 1
List A 382 3703 2905 90 3/20 3/20 32.27 4.70 41.14 0 0 0

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

Lyell_Chris said:
Allan Border has to in

You are right. He should replace Carl Hooper.

Thanks.

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

SJS said:
You are right. He should replace Carl Hooper.

Thanks.

No I am sorry, he has only 39 wickets in 156 test matches !! That is ONE wicket in FOR matches and just four overs per test.

He didnt bowl. Not enough. There are many with beter analysis but didnt bowl enough.

chaminda_00 · Nov 23, 2005

Frank Worrell should replace Hooper...

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

chaminda_00 said:
Frank Worrell should replace Hooper...

Yes. I suppose he should if we dilute the criteria of a 100 test wickets. Worrell had 69. He would greatly strengthen the batting and would be captain perhaps

chaminda_00 · Nov 23, 2005

Doesn't Worrell have a similar WPM ratio to Hopper, so he is as good bowler if not slightly better. Also Tony Grieg has more then 100 wickets...

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

chaminda_00 said:
Doesn't Worrell have a similar WPM ratio to Hopper, so he is as good bowler if not slightly better. Also Tony Grieg has more then 100 wickets...

Yes to both.

But if we have to include one of them, I would take Worrell.

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

Grieg would be another compromise since he did not bowl spin all the time. Mostly iy was medium pace stuff.

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

chaminda_00 said:
Doesn't Worrell have a similar WPM ratio to Hopper, so he is as good bowler if not slightly better. Also Tony Grieg has more then 100 wickets...

Okay. We will replace both Barnes and Hooper and bring in Worrell and Greig. This is more honest too

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

Aha, there is Frank Woolley with 83 wickets (with left arm spin) at 33.9, 3860 runs at 36.1 per innings and 64 catches in 64 matches ! And he kept wickets (played for it) for England in a test match !!

chaminda_00 · Nov 23, 2005

There is also GA Faulkner bowled leg spin for South Africa and took 82 wickets at 26 and scored 1754 runs at 40 and took 20 catches in 25 games. There are a few others if you take out the 100 wicket restrications.

SJS · Nov 23, 2005

Here it is again - much improved thanks to the inputs of Chaminda_00
1 Rhodes
2 Mankad
3 Worrell(captain)
4 Sobers
5 Woolley(keeper)
6 Grieg
7 Noble
8 Benaud
9 Warne
10 O'Rielly
11 Murali

Here is a team of spinners that can actually compete.

- All of them including the keeper have atleast 50 test wickets (9 of them have over a hundred) - 2536 between the team at 26.9 !! The top 5 bowlers have over 1700 at 24 each !!
- They have at least one five wicket an innings haul - 148 between them. !
- Frank Woolley actually kept wickets for England in a test match
- The team has thirty-six 10 in a match hauls !

The top six in the batting order have..
- over 23 thousand runs at 42.9 per innings !
- 44 centuries
- 99 fifties

The team has two who can effectively open the bowling Grieg(right arm) and Sobers(left arm) and bowl spin of a huge variey later.

In addition it has another nine who include ...

- four leg spinners (including the two greatest)
- two off spinners (including the greatest)
- three left arm spinners

PS Oh yes. They also are a great fielding side. A total of 735 test catches betwen them !!!

A team of 11 spinners !

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