A.F.L. Thread II

[pasag]

Looking forward to the documentary.

 

[benchmark00]

Yeah, I've got no problem with benchy's approach.

Does the AFL offer any help to the player involved? Because if it is as it stands, and the player just gets told to lift his game then that is totally ****ed.

As I understand, after the first strike the AFL medical officer is the only person who knows about it (other than the player himself). So judging by that, I would expect they would endeavour to get the player some help. Certainly after the 2nd strike when the club doctor finds out I would think the doc would provide some form of help.

I think as it stands it has to be more club driven. Though don't quote me.

 

[Mr Casson]

Nah Hawthorn only finds out after the 3rd I think, but it should work the way I said.

the club doctor is notified after the 2nd strike but must keep the identity of the player confidential.

Tuck suspended for 12 weeks, but can play VFL after 8.

Apparently has depression.

This is why Hawthorn can't exactly dig their heels in and say that the system is flawed and that they found out when it was all too late. If the club doctor knows, it makes sense that the club would have been informed they have a player sitting on two strikes. That they may not have been able to do enough without knowing the player's name is about all they can argue.

I also don't think it's the AFL alone that the club should be criticising for the way the system currently works. I'm sure it was negotiated at least in part by the Players Association - certainly they have been vocal in their opposition to players being named to any extent until after the third strike - so they deserve some of the 'credit' for this debacle.

 

[Craig]

Nathan Krakouer > Gold Coast Suns. Not surprising that one.

Since Pavlich has put off contract talks with Freo until the end of the season, the inevitable speculation is that he will make the switch to Gold Coast. Unless it's an offer too good to refuse, I don't think it will happen.

 

[Jono]

Pav's stayed with Freo for years when they were ****. They're finally a force, he won't leave now.

 

[benchmark00]

Cameron Bruce my tip for GC captaincy if they don't get GAblett.

Has been leaked that Riewoldt won Richmond's B&F tonight. Newman 2nd and Deledio 3rd.

 

[Jono]

That'll definitely be the top 3. Though Newman as the winner wouldn't surprise me either.

Deledio has been super consistent the last few years, but I'd like him to take that next step. He'll be entering his 7th year of AFL, and needs to decide whether he's going to be a superstar or not.

 

[benchmark00]

Was leaked at 9pm... but has now been taken off the Herald Sun website. Article:

RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt collected his second medal in five days when he was awarded Richmond's best-and-fairest on Wednesday night.

Riewoldt, 21, pipped his captain Chris Newman by six votes, with 210, to claim his first Jack Dyer medal.

Brett Deledio, aiming for a third win in a row, was third with 193 votes.

Riewoldt, who won the John Coleman medal as the AFL's leading goalkicker (78 goals) hit the front in the vote count in Round 9 and stayed there through 10 rounds of voting before being overhauled by Newman in Round 19.

But a seven-goal haul against his cousin Nick's St Kilda team in Round 21 put the Tasmanian back in front, where he remained.

Riewoldt's stellar season was highlighted by a stunning 10-goal haul against West Coast at the MCG in Round 12.

Emerging star Dustin Martin (159), seasoned midfielder Shane Tuck (153) and Shane Edwards (151) finished fourth, fifth and sixth, respectively.



Popular Riewoldt's win had the approval of all in the Crown ballroom, but the biggest cheers of the night came whenever Ben Cousins polled a vote, despite him finishing outside the top 10.

Cousins maintained a low profile during the night, declining to comment on the plight of the Hawks' Travis Tuck - brother of teammate Shane - and his 12-match suspension for returning a third positive drug test.

 

[benchmark00]

Re: Deledio, I reckon he gets off too lightly by Hardwick, and Wallace in the past. He gets pretty easy roles and looks good, but he doesn't actually contribute that much to the actual winning of a game, if that makes sense. I reckon they need to give him a bigger role, like a Luke Hodge type thing.

 

[pasag]

...gets pretty easy roles and looks good, but he doesn't actually contribute that much to the actual winning of a game, if that makes sense.

Describes most of our side itbt, although they don't even look good anymore.

 

[Jono]

Re: Deledio, I reckon he gets off too lightly by Hardwick, and Wallace in the past. He gets pretty easy roles and looks good, but he doesn't actually contribute that much to the actual winning of a game, if that makes sense. I reckon they need to give him a bigger role, like a Luke Hodge type thing.

Do not disagree with any of that. We just refuse to play him in the middle at any stage. Would love him to go in there in bursts like Hodge does.

I understand we sometimes like to have him on half back because of his ball use, or in the forward line because of his pace off the mark, but he doesn't impact games.

If Richmond next year has a midfield of Foley, Cotchin, Martin with Deledio rotating in there I reckon we'll be pretty good.

 

[benchmark00]

You'll never win fans as long as you you have Jake King in your 22 imo.

 

[Jono]

He was adored in round 22. Crowd was well on his side.

He has turned people around, and single handedly was the spark that brought us back in the game and bring a 54 point deficit to 3.

Ideally he won't be in our best 22 for much longer, but I think to say we're not going to win fans, when our fanbase is ready to absolutely burst, is a bit unfair.

 

[benchmark00]

No matter who King plays for (as long as it's not against Sydney) I hope they lose. Simple as.

 

[Jono]

Hoping we lose against scum like Essendon and Collingwood because we have Jake King is disappointing to say the least.

 

[benchmark00]

The ends justify the means imo.

 

[Jono]

Haha well played. Kingy is scum, no doubt.

 

[mikeW]

Get Mark "Bomber" Thompson to Windly Hill!

 

[pasag]

Barry Hall:

"They're all morons at Collinwood."

Never have truer words been spoken.

 

[Matt79]

Punched anyone recently Baz?