A Batsman's 'Prime'

[Satguru]

Something similar happened with Dravid too.

Yup, Ponting, Dravid have had amazingly similar careers as far as stats go...

Shame with both, honestly... in 2006 i was ready to proclaim them as No1 and 2 in the "best ive ever seen list" if theyd just carried on for a few more years... but imo their form after that was just god-awful, and cannot and should not be ignored. As it is, theyre right up there...

Sobers too averaged well over 60 at one point in his career iirc

And how about this from Michael Bevan for an extended ODI run:

1994-June 2001 160 Matches 5338 Runs, Average: 58.02

 

[burr]

Those Ponting statistics are extraordinary. 50-70 tests is a career for a lot of batsmen. To average 65-75ish is mind boggling. How many of those tests were at 3? I imagine it's even more to his credit that he doesn't get the advantage of too many not outs and didn't play too many tests against useless minnows.

While I've grown to love Ponting and don't want him unceremoniously dumped, in some ways it is sad he is no longer the batting titan he once was. He's too good not to be feared by opposition teams.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

While I've grown to love Ponting and don't want him unceremoniously dumped, in some ways it is sad he is no longer the batting titan he once was. He's too good not to be feared by opposition teams.

Sadly i don't think he is now. The aura about him has gone as we have seen too often that he is only human and not just a run machine like he was for so many years. Certainly last winter I feared that others would do the damage rather than him as he looked so out of nick.

 

[Satguru]

Ok, i take back what i said about Ponting having the best post-bradman peak ... its clearly Sobers imo

52 Matches 88 Innings 5468 Runs Average: 72.90, 19 Hunderds, 20 Fifties

Far more impressive imo than Ponting's run, because this run of 50 odd test matches came over a period of 11 YEARS!!!

From 1957 to 1968, Sobers averaged 73... simply mind boggling

 

[Sparkley]

RT Ponting Mar 8, 2002 - Nov 27, 2000:
52 Matches 92 Innings 5813 runs Average: 74.52, 23 Hundreds, 20 Fifties

Holy **** is the only way to describe it. Best run for any batsman since bradman

Extraordinary numbers but a few things to consider : 1) It was a period when an insane number of batsmen filled their boots (Moyo, Dravid, etc.) 2) Removing West Indies, Bangla and Zim, the figure drops to 68 (still awesome). 3) Interesting to note that his away average after removing these three teams in this period is a spectacular 51 but it is still some way off his home average of 79 during the same period. Now by no means is he a Sehwag or Sangakkara in terms of scoring runs away but his away record always pulls him down I feel. Even now his away record languishes in the mid 40s. Assume the period you mean is 8mar 02 to 27 nov 2007 and not 2000 btw.

 

[Cevno]

Ricky Ponting ( 1999-2006 ) : 8114 @ 65.43 from 87 tests
Jacques Kallis ( 1999-2005 ) : 6433 @ 64.97 from 73 tests
Sachin Tendulkar ( 1997-2002 ) : 5705 @ 63.38 from 59 tests
Brian Lara ( 2001-2005 ) : 5134 @ 61.85 from 47 tests
Rahul Dravid ( 2000-2006 ) : 6400 @ 61.53 from 72 tests

Kallis's will go till 2007 and Sachin's till 2004, if you are looking at those stats alone.

Jacques Kallis ( 1999-2007 ) : 8263 @ 65.06 from 90 tests
Sachin Tendulkar ( 1997-2004 ) : 6773 @ 62.23 from 74 tests

 

[Prince EWS]

Actually, that whole thing (now deleted) is wrong because it thinks a batsman's home innings all come before his first away innings; hence the funny dates. I'll try again.

 

[Hurricane]

Basically, for people who couldn't be assed reading that, how many matches does a player how to have played before I can consider his 'prime' batting average?

20

Even though in another thread we showed that you need 80 tests before you will have an indicator of where they will be at the end of their career (e.g. Mike Hussey) - I think 20 is a decent sample for your purposes.

Hope that helps.

 

[Jager]

Lets take a classic case of now. Ponting v Samaraweera, Ponting may end with a lower test average after a stuttering end to his career but nobody in their right mind would pick Samaraweera over Ponting. His end figures won't do full justice to how good he actually was despite them being very impressive now anyway.

This is one of the things that a prime could be useful for. It could help give credit to players who dropped off towards the end of their career. Neil Harvey, for example: he spent most of his career in the mid-to-high 50's.

20 game qualifier: 65.29 after 24 matches
1/2 career qualifier: 61.73 after 39 matches (79 matches)

 

[Prince EWS]

Okay, this might still be slightly buggy, but I think it's right now..

40-Innings Peaks
Batsmen who averaged over 50 across forty innings

			Start Peak	End Peak	Runs	Average

DG Bradman (Aus)	20 Jul 1934	22 Jul 1948	3772	114.30
SR Waugh (Aus)		22 Jul 1993	25 Jan 1996	2345	83.75
RT Ponting (Aus)	26 Dec 2004	23 Nov 2006	2564	82.71
JH Kallis (SA)		26 Dec 2003	2 Jan 2006	2554	82.39
GS Sobers (WI)		5 Feb 1958	7 Mar 1962	2821	80.60
KC Sangakkara (SL)	2 Jun 2006	20 Jul 2009	2741	78.31
KF Barrington (Eng)	23 Jul 1964	24 Aug 1967	2640	77.65
A Flower (Zim)		29 Oct 1999	27 Dec 2001	2406	77.61
S Chanderpaul (WI)	2 Jun 2006	6 Mar 2009	2242	77.31
Mohammad Yousuf (Pak)	16 Mar 2005	4 Jul 2009	2773	77.03
DB Vengsarkar (Ind)	31 Dec 1984	24 Nov 1988	2232	76.97
ML Hayden (Aus)		14 Dec 2001	26 Dec 2003	2691	76.89
R Dravid (Ind)		8 Oct 2003	21 Jan 2006	2597	76.38
WR Hammond (Eng)	13 Jul 1935	19 Aug 1939	2596	76.35
TT Samaraweera (SL)	23 Jul 2008	16 Jun 2011	2288	76.27
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)	15 Dec 2006	24 Nov 2009	2811	75.97
L Hutton (Eng)		25 Jun 1949	25 Jun 1953	2350	75.81
SR Tendulkar (Ind)	17 Oct 2008	16 Dec 2010	2574	75.71
IVA Richards (WI)	31 Jan 1976	30 Dec 1980	2919	74.85
ED Weekes (WI)		27 Mar 1948	17 Mar 1954	2762	72.68
PA de Silva (SL)	19 Apr 1997	14 Jun 2000	2390	72.42
MEK Hussey (Aus)	3 Nov 2005	12 Jun 2008	2306	72.06
SM Gavaskar (Ind)	16 Oct 1978	29 Jan 1980	2660	71.89
CL Walcott (WI)		7 Feb 1953	26 Mar 1958	2505	71.57
BC Lara (WI)		20 Jun 2003	3 Jun 2005	2713	71.39
GS Chappell (Aus)	5 Jan 1974	1 Jan 1977	2158	69.61
DCS Compton (Eng)	14 Aug 1937	8 Jul 1948	2294	69.52
AB de Villiers (SA)	3 Apr 2008	20 Nov 2010	2218	69.31
Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pak)	1 May 2002	20 Nov 2005	2354	69.24
GA Gooch (Eng)		21 Jun 1990	23 Jul 1992	2677	68.64
Javed Miandad (Pak)	9 Oct 1976	4 Dec 1979	1971	67.97
V Sehwag (Ind)		16 Oct 2003	13 Jan 2006	2573	67.71
JB Hobbs (Eng)		11 Mar 1910	12 Jul 1924	2502	67.62
H Sutcliffe (Eng)	14 Aug 1926	15 Aug 1931	2350	67.14
AC Gilchrist (Aus)	18 Mar 2001	17 Oct 2003	2080	67.10
RN Harvey (Aus)		23 Jan 1948	6 Feb 1953	2409	66.92
AD Nourse (SA)		24 Dec 1935	20 Jan 1950	2257	66.38
Zaheer Abbas (Pak)	27 Nov 1981	16 Nov 1984	2296	65.60
G Boycott (Eng)		9 Jan 1971	25 Aug 1977	2162	65.52
VVS Laxman (Ind)	11 Apr 2008	12 Nov 2010	1960	65.33
AR Border (Aus)		8 Nov 1985	7 Oct 1988	2220	65.29
RB Simpson (Aus)	2 Jul 1964	30 Dec 1967	2481	65.29
HH Gibbs (SA)		22 Feb 2002	26 Mar 2004	2413	65.22
DL Amiss (Eng)		2 Mar 1973	4 Jan 1975	2278	65.09
Younis Khan (Pak)	16 Mar 2005	1 Oct 2007	2336	64.89
CG Greenidge (WI)	2 Jan 1982	7 Dec 1984	2072	64.75
MC Cowdrey (Eng)	5 Jul 1962	30 Dec 1965	2063	64.47
AN Cook (Eng)		16 Dec 2009	25 Jan 2012	2446	64.37
CH Lloyd (WI)		30 Dec 1980	7 Dec 1984	2204	62.97
G Gambhir (Ind)		24 Mar 2005	24 Jan 2010	2326	62.86
RG Pollock (SA)		6 Dec 1963	5 Mar 1970	2252	62.56
MW Gatting (Eng)	28 Nov 1984	4 Jun 1987	2001	62.53
HM Amla (SA)		10 Jul 2008	16 Dec 2010	2185	62.43
GC Smith (SA)		29 Feb 2008	26 Jun 2010	2246	62.39
IR Bell (Eng)		19 Dec 2008	25 Jan 2012	2115	62.21
KD Walters (Aus)	10 Dec 1965	19 Feb 1970	2226	61.83
G Kirsten (SA)		7 Sep 2001	2 Jan 2004	2223	61.75
MD Crowe (NZ)		20 Feb 1987	18 Jan 1992	2203	61.19
JC Adams (WI)		26 Dec 1992	26 Dec 1996	1826	60.87
GA Headley (WI)		11 Jan 1930	15 Jan 1954	2190	60.83
AR Morris (Aus)		1 Jan 1947	30 Nov 1951	2245	60.68
MJ Clarke (Aus)		17 Oct 2008	27 Mar 2010	2123	60.66
EH Hendren (Eng)	14 Jun 1924	1 Feb 1930	1931	60.34
DJ Cullinan (SA)	10 Dec 1998	29 Mar 2001	2049	60.26
WM Lawry (Aus)		5 May 1965	24 Jan 1969	2226	60.16
DC Boon (Aus)		26 Dec 1991	26 Nov 1993	1983	60.09
Saleem Malik (Pak)	19 Jan 1990	19 Jan 1995	2043	60.09
TW Graveney (Eng)	4 Jul 1957	22 Jun 1967	2159	59.97
PBH May (Eng)		23 Jun 1955	31 Dec 1958	2091	59.74
MP Vaughan (Eng)	17 May 2001	31 Jul 2003	2204	59.57
FMM Worrell (WI)	11 Feb 1948	26 Mar 1955	2144	59.56
Shoaib Mohammad (Pak)	22 Apr 1988	8 Sep 1995	2082	59.49
SJ McCabe (Aus)		31 Dec 1931	10 Jun 1938	2123	58.97
GR Viswanath (Ind)	28 Jan 1977	21 Nov 1979	2239	58.92
RB Kanhai (WI)		31 Dec 1958	25 Jul 1963	2352	58.80
GM Turner (NZ)		15 Oct 1969	5 Feb 1976	2058	58.80
KWR Fletcher (Eng)	2 Mar 1973	20 Feb 1975	1940	58.79
IM Chappell (Aus)	16 Feb 1973	12 Dec 1975	2116	58.78
Imran Khan (Pak)	24 Oct 1986	12 Dec 1991	1584	58.67
JL Langer (Aus)		18 Mar 2001	18 Jul 2003	2110	58.61
RA Smith (Eng)		5 Apr 1990	4 Jun 1992	1696	58.48
ER Dexter (Eng)		8 Jun 1961	15 Mar 1963	2091	58.08
HA Gomes (WI)		13 Mar 1981	22 Dec 1984	1740	58.00
ME Trescothick (Eng)	1 Apr 2004	12 Nov 2005	2204	58.00
AG Prince (SA)		15 Dec 2006	19 Mar 2009	1796	57.94
VS Hazare (Ind)		28 Nov 1947	7 Feb 1953	1967	57.85
GP Thorpe (Eng)		13 Mar 2002	17 Dec 2004	1784	57.55
HP Tillakaratne (SL)	12 Mar 1999	24 Mar 2004	1611	57.54
Misbah-ul-Haq (Pak)	22 Nov 2007	17 Dec 2011	1780	57.42
JH Edrich (Eng)		8 Feb 1968	29 Jan 1971	2065	57.36
IJL Trott (Eng)		20 Aug 2009	25 Jan 2012	2064	57.33
NS Sidhu (Ind)		1 Feb 1992	25 Mar 1998	2289	57.23
Hanif Mohammad (Pak)	26 Oct 1955	21 Jun 1962	2113	57.11
DM Jones (Aus)		10 Jan 1987	19 Jan 1990	1884	57.09
MA Taylor (Aus)		6 Jul 1989	29 Nov 1991	2049	56.92
RB Richardson (WI)	24 Dec 1988	25 Jul 1991	2105	56.89
KP Pietersen (Eng)	8 Sep 2005	7 Jun 2007	2210	56.67
SM Katich (Aus)		6 Nov 2008	13 Jul 2010	2147	56.50
B Mitchell (SA)		4 Mar 1932	16 Aug 1947	1855	56.21
AL Hassett (Aus)	29 Nov 1946	31 Dec 1951	2078	56.16
AH Jones (NZ)		11 Dec 1987	1 Nov 1992	1909	56.15
AI Kallicharran (WI)	6 Apr 1972	26 Dec 1975	2009	55.81
Mudassar Nazar (Pak)	10 Dec 1982	23 Feb 1986	2006	55.72
M Amarnath (Ind)	23 Jan 1983	5 Jun 1986	1941	55.46
AJ Strauss (Eng)	22 Mar 2008	26 Dec 2009	2047	55.32
DR Martyn (Aus)		12 Mar 1993	29 Nov 2002	1766	55.19
M Azharuddin (Ind)	3 Jul 1986	9 Aug 1990	2136	54.77
C Washbrook (Eng)	1 Jan 1947	20 Jul 1950	1948	54.11
DI Gower (Eng)		13 Jan 1985	4 Jun 1987	2050	53.95
TM Dilshan (SL)		3 Apr 2008	31 Aug 2011	1987	53.70
IR Redpath (Aus)	22 Jan 1970	22 Mar 1974	1814	53.35
SM Nurse (WI)		5 May 1965	13 Mar 1969	2134	53.35
ST Jayasuriya (SL)	25 Jan 1996	9 Sep 1999	2019	53.13
CH Gayle (WI)		7 Jun 2007	23 Nov 2010	2010	52.89
KJ Hughes (Aus)		10 Mar 1979	23 Jan 1981	1904	52.89
C Hill (Aus)		13 Dec 1897	15 Jan 1904	2009	52.87
SM Pollock (SA)		26 Dec 2000	26 Dec 2003	1267	52.79
PR Umrigar (Ind)	16 Oct 1952	31 Dec 1958	1841	52.60
MS Atapattu (SL)	14 Jun 2000	16 May 2002	1788	52.59
WM Woodfull (Aus)	10 Jul 1926	13 Jan 1933	1892	52.56
W Bardsley (Aus)	26 Jul 1909	11 Jun 1921	1940	52.43
DL Haynes (WI)		4 Aug 1988	27 Apr 1991	1875	52.08
MJ Slater (Aus)		17 Jun 1993	31 Mar 1995	1977	52.03
WJ Edrich (Eng)		3 Mar 1939	23 Jul 1953	2028	52.00
NC O'Neill (Aus)	5 Dec 1958	29 Dec 1962	1816	51.89
Majid Khan (Pak)	6 Jan 1973	1 Apr 1977	2018	51.74
Saeed Anwar (Pak)	26 Feb 1998	7 Dec 2000	2013	51.62
SC Ganguly (Ind)	16 Jan 1997	26 Dec 1999	1858	51.61
EJ Barlow (SA)		26 Dec 1961	23 Dec 1966	1961	51.61
JB Stollmeyer (WI)	19 Aug 1939	15 Jan 1954	1800	51.43
Mohsin Khan (Pak)	14 Mar 1982	19 Mar 1984	1800	51.43
MH Richardson (NZ)	17 Nov 2000	16 Oct 2003	1883	50.89
VL Manjrekar (Ind)	15 Jan 1955	13 Dec 1961	1726	50.76
RC Fredericks (WI)	6 Apr 1972	12 Dec 1975	1826	50.72
Mushtaq Mohammad (Pak)	21 Feb 1969	30 Oct 1976	1874	50.65
Ijaz Ahmed (Pak)	15 Feb 1995	27 Nov 1998	1823	50.64
CG Macartney (Aus)	1 Jul 1909	14 Aug 1926	1822	50.61
ME Waugh (Aus)		25 Mar 1994	1 Feb 1997	1973	50.59
RM Cowper (Aus)		17 Oct 1964	11 Jul 1968	1922	50.58
MS Dhoni (Ind)		25 May 2007	14 Feb 2010	1669	50.58
HW Taylor (SA)		5 Nov 1921	13 Feb 1931	1867	50.46
LRPL Taylor (NZ)	18 Mar 2009	23 Mar 2012	1862	50.32
JG Wright (NZ)		11 Dec 1987	18 Jan 1992	1906	50.16
MA Atherton (Eng)	8 Apr 1994	26 Dec 1995	1956	50.15
JV Coney (NZ)		11 Aug 1983	21 Aug 1986	1601	50.03

 

[Prince EWS]

If anyone wants a different amount of innings, let me know.

 

[Hurricane]

best data ever.

Coney was eye opening.

 

[uvelocity]

thats nice work

 

[Jager]

So maybe Samaraweera is equal to Ponting after all

 

[Prince EWS]

If you do the same thing but use my standardised averages formula instead of scorecard runs, you get a pretty different list:

40-Innings Peaks
Batsmen who averaged over 50 standardised runs across forty innings

			Start Peak	End Peak	St Runs	St Average

DG Bradman (Aus)	29 Dec 1928	18 Aug 1934	3928.6	106.18
SR Waugh (Aus)		22 Jul 1993	25 Jan 1996	2318.0	82.79
CL Walcott (WI)		21 Jan 1953	13 Mar 1958	2862.3	81.78
IVA Richards (WI)	31 Jan 1976	30 Dec 1980	3155.6	80.91
SM Gavaskar (Ind)	16 Oct 1978	29 Jan 1980	2917.4	78.85
A Flower (Zim)		27 Nov 1998	14 Sep 2001	2302.3	76.74
L Hutton (Eng)		25 Jun 1949	25 Jun 1953	2352.6	75.89
GS Sobers (WI)		30 May 1957	9 Dec 1960	2648.7	75.68
KF Barrington (Eng)	23 Jul 1964	24 Aug 1967	2535.6	74.58
RT Ponting (Aus)	22 Nov 2001	26 Dec 2003	2605.2	74.43
S Chanderpaul (WI)	2 Jun 2006	6 Mar 2009	2152.1	74.21
SR Tendulkar (Ind)	6 Mar 1997	26 Dec 1999	2578.7	73.68
R Dravid (Ind)		8 Aug 2002	17 Dec 2004	2420.9	73.36
BC Lara (WI)		6 Apr 2001	2 Jan 2004	2857.8	73.28
JH Kallis (SA)		26 Dec 2003	2 Jan 2006	2268.3	73.17
PA de Silva (SL)	19 Apr 1997	14 Jun 2000	2389.9	72.42
ED Weekes (WI)		25 Jan 1952	4 Jul 1957	2570.4	71.40
DB Vengsarkar (Ind)	31 Dec 1984	24 Nov 1988	2049.3	70.67
ML Hayden (Aus)		14 Dec 2001	26 Dec 2003	2458.8	70.25
Mohammad Yousuf (Pak)	16 Mar 2005	4 Jul 2009	2524.4	70.12
DCS Compton (Eng)	14 Aug 1937	8 Jul 1948	2287.9	69.33
AR Border (Aus)		2 Jan 1983	8 Nov 1985	2214.5	69.20
RN Harvey (Aus)		31 Dec 1951	7 Jun 1956	2607.7	68.62
JB Hobbs (Eng)		11 Mar 1910	12 Jul 1924	2537.4	68.58
Javed Miandad (Pak)	9 Oct 1976	4 Dec 1979	1987.3	68.53
KC Sangakkara (SL)	2 Jun 2006	20 Jul 2009	2372.5	67.79
GA Headley (WI)		11 Jan 1930	15 Jan 1954	2408.1	66.89
PBH May (Eng)		23 Jun 1955	31 Dec 1958	2324.2	66.40
GA Gooch (Eng)		21 Jun 1990	23 Jul 1992	2585.5	66.29
GS Chappell (Aus)	5 Jan 1974	1 Jan 1977	2053.9	66.26
VS Hazare (Ind)		22 Jun 1946	13 Nov 1952	2247.9	66.12
GR Viswanath (Ind)	28 Jan 1977	21 Nov 1979	2481.4	65.30
AB de Villiers (SA)	3 Apr 2008	20 Nov 2010	2085.2	65.16
C Hill (Aus)		13 Dec 1897	15 Jan 1904	2472.8	65.07
TT Samaraweera (SL)	23 Jul 2008	16 Jun 2011	1949.1	64.97
AD Nourse (SA)		24 Dec 1935	20 Jan 1950	2195.1	64.56
WR Hammond (Eng)	13 Jul 1935	19 Aug 1939	2165.2	63.68
V Sehwag (Ind)		16 Oct 2003	13 Jan 2006	2415.5	63.57
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)	15 Dec 2006	24 Nov 2009	2348.1	63.46
RB Simpson (Aus)	2 Jul 1964	30 Dec 1967	2406.7	63.33
AC Gilchrist (Aus)	18 Mar 2001	17 Oct 2003	1955.6	63.08
KD Walters (Aus)	10 Dec 1965	19 Feb 1970	2270.6	63.07
JC Adams (WI)		26 Dec 1992	26 Dec 1996	1868.8	62.29
MEK Hussey (Aus)	17 Nov 2005	9 Oct 2008	1992.4	62.26
Younis Khan (Pak)	16 Mar 2005	1 Oct 2007	2198.7	61.08
G Boycott (Eng)		8 Jun 1967	17 Jun 1971	1953.4	61.05
H Sutcliffe (Eng)	15 Jun 1929	15 Jun 1935	2070.0	60.88
CH Lloyd (WI)		6 Apr 1973	10 Mar 1976	2189.6	60.82
FMM Worrell (WI)	11 Feb 1948	26 Mar 1955	2188.2	60.78
SJ McCabe (Aus)		2 Dec 1932	22 Jul 1938	2182.8	60.63
RG Pollock (SA)		6 Dec 1963	5 Mar 1970	2167.2	60.20
VVS Laxman (Ind)	11 Apr 2008	12 Nov 2010	1800.7	60.02
M Amarnath (Ind)	2 Dec 1977	14 Sep 1983	2160.0	60.00
Inzamam-ul-Haq (Pak)	18 Nov 1999	9 Nov 2002	2278.4	59.96
Saleem Malik (Pak)	19 Jan 1990	19 Jan 1995	2027.0	59.62
MD Crowe (NZ)		6 Apr 1985	24 Feb 1989	2080.0	59.43
DC Boon (Aus)		27 Nov 1992	28 Sep 1994	1960.7	59.41
WM Lawry (Aus)		5 May 1965	24 Jan 1969	2196.4	59.36
HH Gibbs (SA)		22 Feb 2002	26 Mar 2004	2195.5	59.34
MP Vaughan (Eng)	17 May 2001	31 Jul 2003	2194.5	59.31
RA Smith (Eng)		27 Jul 1989	8 Aug 1991	1714.0	59.10
DJ Cullinan (SA)	10 Dec 1998	29 Mar 2001	1996.2	58.71
MC Cowdrey (Eng)	23 Feb 1963	2 Jun 1966	1813.6	58.50
MJ Clarke (Aus)		17 Oct 2008	27 Mar 2010	2045.5	58.44
TW Graveney (Eng)	4 Jul 1957	22 Jun 1967	2095.7	58.21
Zaheer Abbas (Pak)	27 Nov 1981	16 Nov 1984	2029.0	57.97
AN Cook (Eng)		16 Dec 2009	25 Jan 2012	2200.5	57.91
DL Amiss (Eng)		2 Mar 1973	4 Jan 1975	2016.8	57.62
JH Edrich (Eng)		8 Feb 1968	29 Jan 1971	2056.2	57.12
Imran Khan (Pak)	24 Oct 1986	12 Dec 1991	1531.8	56.73
HM Amla (SA)		10 Jul 2008	16 Dec 2010	1982.7	56.65
GM Turner (NZ)		15 Oct 1969	5 Feb 1976	1977.6	56.50
CG Greenidge (WI)	13 Feb 1981	26 Jul 1984	1804.1	56.38
GP Thorpe (Eng)		7 Mar 2001	10 Apr 2004	1794.4	56.07
AI Kallicharran (WI)	6 Apr 1972	26 Dec 1975	2018.5	56.07
NS Sidhu (Ind)		1 Feb 1992	25 Mar 1998	2237.7	55.94
G Kirsten (SA)		7 Sep 2001	2 Jan 2004	2002.4	55.62
GC Smith (SA)		29 Feb 2008	26 Jun 2010	2001.9	55.61
HW Taylor (SA)		13 Dec 1913	28 Jan 1928	2112.8	55.60
G Gambhir (Ind)		24 Mar 2005	24 Jan 2010	2056.1	55.57
JL Langer (Aus)		18 Nov 1999	22 Feb 2002	1996.6	55.46
KJ Hughes (Aus)		10 Mar 1979	23 Jan 1981	1995.6	55.43
RB Kanhai (WI)		31 Dec 1958	25 Jul 1963	2217.0	55.42
Hanif Mohammad (Pak)	26 Oct 1955	21 Jun 1962	2044.8	55.26
CG Macartney (Aus)	1 Jul 1909	14 Aug 1926	1985.2	55.14
NC O'Neill (Aus)	5 Dec 1958	29 Dec 1962	1929.3	55.12
Saeed Anwar (Pak)	26 Feb 1998	7 Dec 2000	2149.4	55.11
SM Nurse (WI)		5 May 1965	13 Mar 1969	2191.8	54.79
DR Martyn (Aus)		12 Mar 1993	29 Nov 2002	1750.4	54.70
DJ McGlew (SA)		5 Dec 1952	28 Feb 1958	2015.9	54.48
Shoaib Mohammad (Pak)	2 Apr 1988	1 Dec 1993	1904.5	54.41
MW Gatting (Eng)	28 Nov 1984	4 Jun 1987	1740.0	54.37
B Mitchell (SA)		4 Mar 1932	16 Aug 1947	1788.1	54.19
HA Gomes (WI)		13 Mar 1981	22 Dec 1984	1623.2	54.11
GA Faulkner (SA)	2 Jan 1906	15 Jul 1912	1946.3	54.06
SM Katich (Aus)		6 Nov 2008	13 Jul 2010	2053.1	54.03
VT Trumper (Aus)	11 Dec 1903	7 Jan 1911	1944.3	54.01
W Bardsley (Aus)	26 Jul 1909	11 Jun 1921	1996.4	53.96
AJ Stewart (Eng)	8 Aug 1996	2 Jul 1998	1992.7	53.86
IM Chappell (Aus)	16 Feb 1973	12 Dec 1975	1937.3	53.81
IR Bell (Eng)		19 Dec 2008	25 Jan 2012	1826.7	53.73
MA Atherton (Eng)	8 Apr 1994	26 Dec 1995	2094.4	53.70
MA Taylor (Aus)		6 Jul 1989	29 Nov 1991	1932.2	53.67
IR Redpath (Aus)	22 Jan 1970	22 Mar 1974	1817.4	53.45
KWR Fletcher (Eng)	2 Mar 1973	20 Feb 1975	1763.7	53.45
C Washbrook (Eng)	13 Dec 1946	24 Jun 1950	1923.9	53.44
DI Gower (Eng)		17 Feb 1982	19 Mar 1984	1923.8	53.44
B Sutcliffe (NZ)	25 Jun 1949	16 Dec 1955	1920.3	53.34
WM Woodfull (Aus)	10 Jul 1926	13 Jan 1933	1918.8	53.30
AL Hassett (Aus)	1 Jan 1948	6 Feb 1953	1965.2	53.11
M Leyland (Eng)		30 Dec 1932	20 Aug 1938	2017.3	53.09
IJL Trott (Eng)		20 Aug 2009	25 Jan 2012	1909.2	53.03
KP Pietersen (Eng)	8 Sep 2005	7 Jun 2007	2058.2	52.78
PR Umrigar (Ind)	16 Oct 1952	31 Dec 1958	1846.5	52.76
HP Tillakaratne (SL)	12 Mar 1999	24 Mar 2004	1474.9	52.68
ST Jayasuriya (SL)	25 Jan 1996	9 Sep 1999	1999.3	52.61
RB Richardson (WI)	18 Nov 1988	6 Jun 1991	1943.9	52.54
DM Jones (Aus)		10 Jan 1987	19 Jan 1990	1730.9	52.45
M Azharuddin (Ind)	3 Jul 1986	9 Aug 1990	2041.1	52.34
RC Fredericks (WI)	16 Feb 1973	3 Jan 1976	1930.7	52.18
AR Morris (Aus)		1 Jan 1947	30 Nov 1951	1927.9	52.11
SC Ganguly (Ind)	16 Jan 1997	26 Dec 1999	1867.5	51.87
VL Manjrekar (Ind)	15 Jan 1955	13 Dec 1961	1761.7	51.81
ME Trescothick (Eng)	1 Apr 2004	12 Nov 2005	1964.2	51.69
Ijaz Ahmed (Pak)	7 Feb 1995	22 Oct 1998	1858.4	51.62
WJ Edrich (Eng)		13 Dec 1946	15 Aug 1953	1961.6	51.62
EAB Rowan (SA)		14 Dec 1935	16 Aug 1951	1853.7	51.49
CH Gayle (WI)		7 Jun 2007	23 Nov 2010	1955.2	51.45
Misbah-ul-Haq (Pak)	30 Nov 2007	17 Jan 2012	1542.2	51.41
ME Waugh (Aus)		25 Mar 1994	1 Feb 1997	2003.7	51.38
N Hussain (Eng)		5 Feb 1998	26 Dec 1999	1787.6	51.07
ER Dexter (Eng)		6 Jan 1960	2 Feb 1962	1836.2	51.00
GA Hick (Eng)		17 Jun 1993	16 Nov 1995	1835.0	50.97
DL Haynes (WI)		4 Aug 1988	27 Apr 1991	1832.8	50.91
EH Hendren (Eng)	8 Mar 1929	14 Feb 1935	1819.2	50.53
MJ Slater (Aus)		17 Jun 1993	31 Mar 1995	1916.2	50.43
SM Pollock (SA)		26 Dec 2000	26 Dec 2003	1208.2	50.34
AC MacLaren (Eng)	16 Jul 1896	15 Jun 1905	1857.2	50.20
RM Cowper (Aus)		17 Oct 1964	11 Jul 1968	1905.8	50.15
Mushtaq Mohammad (Pak)	26 Jul 1962	22 Aug 1974	1804.7	50.13
KR Stackpole (Aus)	4 Nov 1969	10 Aug 1972	1854.3	50.12

 

[Debris]

This does show how insanely consistent Steven Waugh was. Even more impressive when you consider what bowlers were around in the early to mid 90s. Not often brought up in the discussions around greatest batsmen. Time to reconsider?

 

[uvelocity]

would be more crazy stats if you just took second innings over that period no doubt

 

[Prince EWS]

This does show how insanely consistent Steven Waugh was. Even more impressive when you consider what bowlers were around in the early to mid 90s. Not often brought up in the discussions around greatest batsmen. Time to reconsider?

To be fair, one could definitely argue that 12 not outs in 40 innings would inflate the old average a bit, not to mention reduce the sample size in a way given average is a runs/dismissals calculation at a basic level. 40 dismissals may be a better measure than 40 innings, but that'd require some serious code adjustments.

 

[morgieb]

Do it over 80 innings IMO.

 

[Jager]

Could you please explain the idea of standardisation to me EWS? I don't understand it fully