8th thread - pick the Aus attack at Cardiff

[Antihippy]

If it seams it spins.

#warnisms

 

[Debris]

If it seams it spins.

#warnisms

Why pick someone who is turning it slowly when you can pick someone who is turning it quickly.

#speedbias

 

[Antihippy]

I actually do think that lyon is far better on a green seamer where he can get speed and bounce as opposed to a SC pitch where it spins big but the spin is low and slow.

 

[Debris]

I actually do think that lyon is far better on a green seamer where he can get speed and bounce as opposed to a SC pitch where it spins big but the spin is low and slow.

But do you think he is better than any of the 4 quicks on a green seamer?

 

[Swingpanzee]

I actually do think that lyon is far better on a green seamer where he can get speed and bounce as opposed to a SC pitch where it spins big but the spin is low and slow.

yeah bounce helps lyon more than huge spin.

All pace attack is playing it wrong, green seamer or not.

 

[paddymadlad]

Rogers
Warner
Voges
Smith
Clarke
Marsh
Haddin
Harris
Starc
Hazlewood
Lyon

Exactly in that order

 

[Cabinet96]

Hey you know we're talking about the Cardiff test right. Green seamer debate is irrelevant.

 

[Furball]

I'm gradually moving away from Starc towards Johnson tbh. Still don't think he'll do anything though.

 

[howardj]

I can't believe we're seriously contemplating leaving Harris out, like we did in the 1st Test of 2013

 

[adub]

I'm not sure 'we' (Marsh, Boof, Junior) are. I get the feeling for them it's more Starc v Haze tbh with Starc favoured. I hope I'm wrong on that, but sniffing the wind it looks a little like that. Fingers crossed Haze and Rhino tear Essex a new one to end the debate.

 

[Antihippy]

God please don't leave haze out.

It will be such an idiotic move.

 

[Swingpanzee]

I'm not sure 'we' (Marsh, Boof, Junior) are. I get the feeling for them it's more Starc v Haze tbh with Starc favoured. I hope I'm wrong on that, but sniffing the wind it looks a little like that. Fingers crossed Haze and Rhino tear Essex a new one to end the debate.

Can't see how anyone would question Haze's place in the side, it's all just silly speculation.

 

[Tangles]

I seem to recall Waugh on comms saying he wasn't traveling to England so selection was Rods problem.

 

[Daemon]

Hint of Hazlewood overrating going on here

 

[OverratedSanity]

Hint of Hazlewood overrating going on here

Not really. He should be a lock.

For me, Harris, Haze, Johnson are all mandatory picks for the first test.

 

[Gob]

the thing is baring the last test, all the other 5 tests that haze bowled in were played on pretty flat wickets. cant blame people for fantasizing some lethal stuff from him in real helpful conditions.

 

[weldone]

the thing is baring the last test, all the other 5 tests that haze bowled in were played on pretty flat wickets. cant blame people for fantasizing some lethal stuff from him in real helpful conditions.

None of the tests in West Indies were played on 'flat' decks.

 

[Gob]

None of the tests in West Indies were played on 'flat' decks.

yeah but the 1st one wasn't conductive to fast bowling at all.

 

[weldone]

yeah but the 1st one wasn't conductive to fast bowling at all.

Wrong. Spinners were unplayable, and fast bowlers were difficult to play. It was a bowling pitch - and turn was not the only reason; there was variabnle bounce etc. Watch Jerome Taylor, Mitch.

 

[Swingpanzee]

It's not even about the fact that Haze has played on flat pitches or anything, that guy has probably the best control of the 4 pacers atm (given Harris sounds to be a bit rusty atm), ever since I've seen him he's been seriously miserly and also a wicket-taking option, basically McGrath-esque. What's not to like?