41st Match - England v New Zealand

[straw man]

Although we're not going to drop Santner any time soon like James suggested in the last thread, he hasn't been great this tournament. His role is mostly defensive, reducing runs and taking wickets when attacked, so more important on flatter wickets and tbf we haven't played on many of those until today. Didn't take a wicket against Pakistan when there was a bit of turn either.

Now would be a good time time to bowl a very tidy spell and pick up a few wickets from the slog.

 

[Bahnz]

I can sense PakPassion's allegiance increasingly shifting to England with every ball.

 

[Howsie]

Let's say England do score 350+, how do New Zealand go about the chase? Set their sights on keeping the margin of defeat to under 100, or go for the win? Both routes have risks.

What do you think Stead will call for?

 

[straw man]

Let's say England do score 350+, how do New Zealand go about the chase? Set their sights on keeping the margin of defeat to under 100, or go for the win? Both routes have risks.

Pissing around trying to not properly chase the target would be all sorts of awful. Someone like Guptill just needs to go out and try and score a dominant hundred, and forget about anything other than trying to win the match.

 

[Zinzan]

Nah, Munro would've been useless against Archer's pace.

Thanks for reminding me. I somehow momentarily forgot England had Archer.

Btw, is it considered out of fashion to vary your pace a little on a road?

 

[Howsie]

Although we're not going to drop Santner any time soon like James suggested in the last thread, he hasn't been great this tournament. His role is mostly defensive, reducing runs and taking wickets when attacked, so more important on flatter wickets and tbf we haven't played on many of those until today. Didn't take a wicket against Pakistan when there was a bit of turn either.

Now would be a good time time to bowl a very tidy spell and pick up a few wickets from the slog.

He should be batting seven, if he was doing that he’d be fine. I don’t like his bowling when hes playing at eight.

 

[Shri]

hope sa win vs au

if we win vs sl, we'll go to 1 and the sf will be au vs eng/ind vs nz

 

[vcs]

These ****s are so hard to contain. At least one six or four every over and they clear the boundary by miles too. It was just relentless against India.

 

[weldone]

Let's say England do score 350+, how do New Zealand go about the chase? Set their sights on keeping the margin of defeat to under 100, or go for the win? Both routes have risks.

The NRR difference between NZ and Pak is too huge to be overcome in a couple of matches. NZ mustn't worry about that at all.

 

[Zinzan]

Let's say England do score 350+, how do New Zealand go about the chase? Set their sights on keeping the margin of defeat to under 100, or go for the win? Both routes have risks.

The greater good has to be making the semis, so I imagine there'd be a slight gamble to go hard if they get a solid start, but if they lose 1-2 quickly, move to plan B which be about making sure you get reasonably close.

Sadly it feels like it won't make much difference if NZ makes the semis at this point. They're unlikely to offer much.

 

[weldone]

Santner is getting trashed. Bring in Neesh and CDG, and keep Santa for later.

 

[Bahnz]

Ticking it over at 7 looks a piece o' piss. 400 definitely on.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

He should be batting seven, if he was doing that he’d be fine. I don’t like his bowling when hes playing at eight.

You couldn't drop either of De Grandhomme (well possibly for Kugglejin) or Neesham though

 

[straw man]

He should be batting seven, if he was doing that he’d be fine. I don’t like his bowling when hes playing at eight.

Not sure I understand this logic. You reckon he bowls more defensively when given less batting responsibility or something?

 

[Spintolose]

The NRR difference between NZ and Pak is too huge to be overcome in a couple of matches. NZ mustn't worry about that at all.

Exactly. It's in the bag.

Chill and let's watch a great game. Knowing who is getting knocked out as we watch.

 

[Bahnz]

The greater good has to be making the semis, so I imagine there'd be a slight gamble to go hard if they get a solid start, but if they lose 1-2 quickly, move to plan B which be about making sure you get reasonably close.

Sadly it feels like it won't make much difference if NZ makes the semis at this point. They're unlikely to offer much.

I'm still holding on to the faint hope that a Boult - Ferguson - KW - Taylor combo attack could be very hard to stop. But yeah, we've looked increasingly awful since the late stages of the WI game onwards.

 

[Zinzan]

Ticking it over at 7 looks a piece o' piss. 400 definitely on.

That is the depressing part, dot balls are like gold atm.

What's the bet it looks like an entirely different wicket when Archer is banging it just short of a length at 145+ kms

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I really miss James Vince

 

[OverratedSanity]

Ticking it over at 7 looks a piece o' piss. 400 definitely on.

Innings which have started massive have petered out quite a lot in this tournament tbh.

 

[GotSpin]

This is grim for NZ