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2nd test: POSITIVE

Simon

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this is sad for Warney to more than likely end his career like this, although after all the controversay hes had its more than fitting. He wont be back from a probable 2 year suspension, the AOC wont let him off this. As much as we all love Warney, he cheated and at the end of the day theres no place in sport for a cheat.
 

Tim

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The thing i don't like is that hes involved his mother in all of this & made her look like a silly old woman.

Plus he's made the fatal mistake of lying rather than telling the truth so once it all comes out Warne will get 0 sympathy.
 

Simon

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ASDA dismisses multiple tablet claim
AAP - 19 February 2003

The Australian Sports Drug Agency has dismissed a newspaper report today that Shane Warne's positive drug test indicated he had taken more than one banned diuretic tablet.

ASDA chief executive John Mendoza says the drug test carried out on Warne would not have been able to determine if multiple tablets were present in the player's system.

ASDA today completed its part in the Warne saga.

It has handed over results of the leg-spinner's B sample to the Australian Cricket Board after his lawyers ruled out challenging the validity of the testing procedure.

The ACB says Warne's hearing is likely to be held by the end of the week, with an announcement on the date to be made later today.
 

warrioryohannan

U19 Cricketer
Interesting article!

Pound ridicules Warne's claim

Australia faces international ridicule if it is perceived to have "gone soft" on Shane Warne in the wake of his positive drug test, according to the world's top anti-doping official.



The chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency, Dick Pound, yesterday said Warne's explanation that his mother had given him a banned tablet was laughable and among the best he had heard.


"Poisoned by his mother? It is good, very good; it ranks up there with the one, 'I got it from the toilet seat,' " said Pound, a Canadian lawyer and former vice-president of the International Olympic Committee who has heard a raft of explanations from athletes to excuse positive drug tests, ranging from spiking of toothpaste to contaminated meat and too much ***.

Pound warned that a lenient Australian Cricket Board decision would put at risk Australia's reputation as a tough leader in the fight against doping, particularly as it came after the case of Commonwealth Games shooter Phil Adams, who received a warning for taking diuretics.

"I think Australia in general has to be very careful in a case like Warne's. There has been a long history of Australia accusing everyone, but your country doesn't have the same enthusiasm when your folks are involved," Pound said.

"Australia has to avoid that perception of going soft on its athletes while it attacks others like the Chinese."

In 1998, four Chinese swimmers were banned for four years after testing positive to diuretics at the world championships in Perth.


Pound's fears on Warne's case were supported by a leading Australian sports lawyer, who predicted that loopholes in the ACB's doping policy would allow the leg spinner to escape penalty.

Simon Rofe, the Australian Olympic Committee's long-term lawyer and a pioneer in the drafting of anti-doping documentation, said the ACB had altered a model anti-doping policy allowing it to grant greater leniency to athletes. He said cricket's poorly drafted document allowed Warne to claim he took a diuretic for vanity - not for recovery from injury or performance enhancement - meaning he may escape penalty. Rofe believed the ACB's "exceptional circumstances" clause was poorly worded and will assist Warne to beat the charge.

"If Warne can establish that he had an honest and reasonable belief he was not taking a diuretic, he gets off scot-free," Rofe said. "The policy of strict liability (an athlete being responsible for what goes in his mouth) goes out the window."

Australian Sports Commission chief Grant Peters confirmed the ACB had taken the model policy and changed it to include a vague clause which grants greater leniency to athletes.
 

Cloete

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who do u guys think will come in for warney?? it's almost certainly going to be another spinner. i hope and think it will be hauritz. a fine bowler!!:D
 

Neil Pickup

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Choora said:
Now why Warne lied about the number oof tablets he took? Or can he get away by an excuse of memory lapse!!

Neil pickup had said that the chances of Warne testing positive would be like Harmison completing an over without bowling any wides!! From the tests its looks like Harmison completed his quota of 10 overs without giving away any extras!!:lol: :lol:
I said testing negative (http://forum.cricketweb.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3071&perpage=30&pagenumber=3)... but hey...
 
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Top_Cat

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Personally I think it's a shocker they're being allowed to replace him - he's not injured!
Again, he wasn't tested positive at the World Cup itself, ergo their anti-doping rules don't apply to him directly. They didn't send him home after all, the ACB did and the ACB are pushing these hearings. So under WC rules, the Aussie team can't be penalised.

Initially I thought the same as you but then I realised that Warne's testing didn't fall under the juristiction of the WC. If he HAD been tested at the WC and a positive test was the result, obviously Australia wouldn't then be able to replace him.
 

marc71178

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That's all well and good, but they selected this bloke in the squad, and after the 31/12/02 deadline they've pulled him out of the squad. He's clearly not injured, so under the rules, I don't see how they can replace him because of that deadline?

Say England wanted to replace Irani with Hollioake because Irani was tripe in the VB, would they have been allowed to?
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
As far as im concerned he was picked in the World Cup squad before he was tested & was never removed out of the squad by the ACB while he was 'recovering' from injury.

So when you are picked you should be bound to the squad & if anything like drugs use or misbehaviour accures after that then its your tough luck.
 

Simon

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Rik said:
Because everyone in Australia hates him.
because the selectors think he isnt economical enough, which is stupid because hes played 3 ODI with a best of 4/19 (10), and also who cares if he concedes 65 runs from his 10 overs, he will usually take 2-3 wickets, plus McGrath and Gillespie only would go for about 65 runs between them in their 20 overs.
 

krkode

State Captain
broncoman said:
because the selectors think he isnt economical enough, which is stupid because hes played 3 ODI with a best of 4/19 (10), and also who cares if he concedes 65 runs from his 10 overs, he will usually take 2-3 wickets, plus McGrath and Gillespie only would go for about 65 runs between them in their 20 overs.
Well, now they seem to have bowlers who can take 2-3 wickets without having to give away 65 overs :/

But I still think, given one spinner and if Shane Warne gets the exit, they should take McGill. I personally think he's the second best spinner the aussies have.
 

Simon

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he is the 2nd best spinner we have, the selectors just have a reluctance to pick him. he wasnt even in the Australia A 3 day game v England. Hauritz seems to be in line before him, as does hogg.
 

Cloete

International Captain
nah. hogg has really come into his own of l8. been playing exceptionally well. also hauritz has matured alot and has become very good.
 

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