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2nd Semi Final - Australia v England

Who will win the match?

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social

social

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Woodster said:
Potentially, although he's so talented it's difficult to imagine him not transferring those skills. England may need to be patient with him, Jos Buttler was similar, it took him a while to come to terms with requirements of Test cricket.

Either way, one thing is for sure and that is that it's the right time to give him the opportunity to have a go.
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Test cricket is such a different beast

He’s 28 and averages 38 in CC

Nothing in his record suggests that he is Hussey

If he was early 20s then maybe

Then factor in who he’s playing against

Cummins is relentless & quick - that’s a bad matchup
 
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PikeyB

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The cupboard is bare . Roy looks like a good Ashes punt because we don't have many options . I agree it is a terrible , unlikely gamble but ...it may be our best shot .
 
Woodster

Woodster

International Captain
social said:
Test cricket is such a different beast

He’s 28 and averages 38 in CC

Nothing in his record suggests that he is Hussey

If he was early 20s then maybe

Then factor in who he’s playing against

Cummins is relentless & quick - that’s a bad matchup
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Cricket is very different these days than when Hussey was coming through, unfortunately not as much attention is given to first-class cricket records, that's not to say it shouldn't still be an accurate guideline as to whether a player can succeed in Test cricket. Roy has focused on the shorter format in recent years and so has played very little first-class cricket in order to improve that record significantly and perhaps give a better representation of where he's at as a batsman nowadays in the longer format.

I mean, it's a limited sample size but based on from the start of the 2017 season he actually averages over 50 in first-class cricket.
 
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Neil Young

Neil Young

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social said:
I predict that he will get roasted at test level

Another Finch
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On what basis? Roy does't have a very obvious technique flaw a la Finch. Does he have a weakness outside off?

He's improved out of sight in the past 3 years for mine. Yesterday's innings was something else.

Not to mention Finch has only played 5 tests.
 
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Pothas

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At this stage I am just taking it as an inevitability and he will almost certainly score more runs than Jennings. I also think that, unlike what we sort with Hales, he will still make his runs pretty quickly, it will be different to what we have had the last few years for sure.
 
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Adders

Adders

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91Jmay said:
Yep, i'd be shocked if he makes it at Test level - he also absolutely cannot open the batting.
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If he plays it's got to be in the top 3........3 is no different to opening in this English side.

I think he's a punt we've just got to take the. At least we know he's got the temperament for the top level.
 
quincywagstaff

quincywagstaff

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I think somebody mentioned here that the 146* Stoinis got in his 2nd ODI was bad for the side long-term and I'd agree as I think that innings was always in the back of the selectors minds in terms of deciding to persist with him even when evidence increasingly piled up in the other direction.

Curiously, I think the 7 times he did reach 50 in ODIs Australia didn't win once.

sunilz said:
Will Maxwell be permanently dropped from AUS side ?
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I think it's time from the ODI format. Peaked as an ODI player probably at the end of 05/06 and has largely been poor form and frustrating cameos since. His form largely mirrors that of the side in that period as well (although this WC a bit of an outlier) and the side needs a fresh start.
 
Burgey

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Neil Young said:
On what basis? Roy does't have a very obvious technique flaw a la Finch. Does he have a weakness outside off?

He's improved out of sight in the past 3 years for mine. Yesterday's innings was something else.

Not to mention Finch has only played 5 tests.
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Have you not seen him try to play an inswinger?
 
mr_mister

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quincywagstaff said:
I think somebody mentioned here that the 146* Stoinis got in his 2nd ODI was bad for the side long-term and I'd agree as I think that innings was always in the back of the selectors minds in terms of deciding to persist with him even when evidence increasingly piled up in the other direction.

Curiously, I think the 7 times he did reach 50 in ODIs Australia didn't win once.



I think it's time from the ODI format. Peaked as an ODI player probably at the end of 05/06 and has largely been poor form and frustrating cameos since. His form largely mirrors that of the side in that period as well (although this WC a bit of an outlier) and the side needs a fresh start.
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Did you mean 15/16?
 
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