2025 Ranking of All Rounders Poll

[honestbharani]

Watson
Gilmour
Jayasuriya

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

McCartney!
Watson
Jayasuriya

 

[capt_Luffy]

Akram
Steel
MaCartney

 

[Bitmap]

Watson
MaCartney
de Grandhomme

 

[Thala_0710]

Watson
Shastri
De Grandhomme

 

[Line and Length]

13 voters and 15 nominations. We have 2 of our final 3 spots identified and 3 vying for the final spot. As this is a Top Forty we are after, I will set up a tie breaker.

Watson 18
Oram 9
de Grandhomme 7
Wasim Akram 7
Macartney 7
Tendulkar 6
Jayasuriya 6
McCool 4
Asif Iqbal 3
Shastri 3
Gilmore 3
Giffen 2
Sinclair 2
Trumble 2
Steel 2

The tie breaker will follow after this post. Please wait for details .

	All Rounders Poll
	* current player								5 for	10 in
		Tests	Runs	Ave	100s	50s	Wickets	Ave	Inns	match	WPM
1	G.Sobers	93	8032	57.78	26	30	235	34.04	6	0	2.53
2	Imran Khan	88	3807	37.69	6	18	362	22.81	23	6	4.11
3	K.Miller	55	2958	36.98	7	13	170	22.98	7	1	3.09
4	J.Kallis	166	13289	55.37	45	58	292	32.65	5	0	1.76
5	I.Botham	102	5200	33.55	14	22	383	28.40	27	4	3.75
6	R.Hadlee	86	3124	27.17	2	15	431	22.30	36	9	5.01
7	A.Faulkner	25	1754	40.79	4	8	82	26.59	4	0	3.31
8	S.Pollock	108	3781	32.32	2	16	421	23.12	16	1	3.90
9	Kapil Dev	131	5248	31.05	8	27	434	29.65	23	2	3.31
10	*R.Jadeja	80	3370	34.74	4	22	323	24.09	15	3	4.04
11	*Shakib al Hasan	71	4609	37.78	5	31	246	31.72	19	2	3.47
12	T.Greig	58	3599	40.44	8	20	141	32.21	6	2	2.43
13	T.Goddard	41	2516	34.47	1	18	123	26.23	5	0	3.00
14	C.Cairns	62	3320	33.54	5	22	218	29.40	13	1	3.52
15	*B.Stokes	110	6719	35.55	13	35	210	32.37	4	0	1.91
16	M.Noble	42	1997	30.26	1	16	121	25.00	9	2	2.88
17	V.Mankad	44	2109	31.48	5	6	162	32.32	8	2	3.68
18	*R.Ashwin	106	3503	25.76	6	14	537	23.91	37	8	5.06
19	W.Rhodes	58	2325	30.19	2	11	127	26.97	6	1	2.19
20	Mushtaq Mohammad	57	3643	39.17	10	19	79	29.23	3	0	1.39
21	A.Flintoff	79	3845	31.78	5	26	226	32.79	3	0	2.86
21	E.Barlow	30	2516	45.75	6	15	40	34.05	1	0	1.33
23	M.Procter	7	226	25.11	0	0	41	15.02	1	0	5.86
24	J.Gregory	24	1146	36.97	2	7	85	31.15	4	0	3.54
25	R.Benaud	63	2201	24.46	3	9	248	27.03	16	1	3.94
26	B.McMillan	38	1968	39.36	3	13	75	33.83	0	0	1.97
27	F.Worrell	51	3860	49.49	9	22	69	38.72	2	0	1.35
28	W.Armstrong	50	2863	38.69	6	8	87	33.60	3	0	1.74
29	D.Vettori	113	4531	30.01	6	23	362	34.37	20	3	3.20
30	W.Hammond	85	7249	58.46	22	24	83	37.81	2	0	0.98
31	A.Davidson	44	1328	24.59	0	5	186	20.53	14	2	4.23
32	T.Bailey	61	2290	29.74	1	10	132	29.21	5	1	2.16
33	J.R.Reid	58	3428	33.28	6	22	85	33.35	1	0	1.47
34	T.Dexter	62	4502	47.89	9	27	66	34.95	0	0	1.06
35	F.Woolley	64	3283	36.08	5	23	83	33.92	4	1	1.30
36	*J.Holder	69	3073	29.83	3	14	162	30.38	8	1	2.35
37	C.Kelleway	26	1422	37.42	3	6	52	32.37	1	0	2.00
38	S.Watson	59	3731	35.20	4	24	75	33.68	3	0	1.27
39	J.Oram	33	1780	36.33	5	6	60	33.05	0	0	1.82

 

[Line and Length]

To assist with the tie breaker, I will submit the relevant statistics of the 3 contenders. I realise some of the other nominees may have as convincing figures as some of these contenders, but we are breaking a 3 way tie for the final spot.
Unlike previous votes, you may add brief comments to support your 3,2,1 votes.
Here are the figures for the three contenders. The 'winner' will be added to the table posted above.

C.de Grandhomme	29	1432	38.70	2	8	49	32.96	1	0	1.69
Wasim Akram	104	2898	22.64	3	7	414	23.62	5	25	3.98
C.Macartney	35	2131	41.78	7	9	45	27.56	2	1	1.29

 

[Qlder]

Your stats are off for last 2 added. Watson has 1.27 WPM (you have 1.21), while Oram bowling average is 33.05 and 1.82 WPM (you have 32.92 and 1.32)

 

[ataraxia]

de Grandhomme
Macartney
Wasim

 

[Fuller Pilch]

de Grandhomme
Macartney
Wasim

 

[Line and Length]

Your stats are off for last 2 added. Watson has 1.27 WPM (you have 1.21), while Oram bowling average is 33.05 and 1.82 WPM (you have 32.92 and 1.32)

I've corrected the WPM figures - poorly scribbled data on my scrap paper. However, Oram's 32.92 bowling average is the figure given by Howstat (where I gather data). Fixed the WPMs but left the average.

 

[Line and Length]

Macartney (excellent batting record + solid bowling stats from limited opportunities)
de Grandhomme (true all rounder)
Wasim (take away a minnow bashing 257* and his batting fails to impress)

 

[ataraxia]

I don't seriously consider Macartney as an all-rounder anymore. He was a bowler who could bat, then a batter who could bowl – and this second stage of his career was by far the largest proportion of it and also when he was as his peak as a player. Unlike a Rhodes, an Imran, or a Sobers, to the best of my knowledge Macartney wasn't really both at the same time.

 

[ataraxia]

I've corrected the WPM figures - poorly scribbled data on my scrap paper. However, Oram's 32.92 bowling average is the figure given by Howstat (where I gather data). Fixed the WPMs but left the average.

That's interesting: cricinfo has him as bowling an 8-run over that Howstat lacks. I wonder how and where that discrepancy crept in.

 

[Qlder]

de Grandhomme
Macartney
Akram

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[capt_Luffy]

Akram (If Hammond is an all-rounder with 44.5 avg vs Australia, so is Akram with a 257*)
MaCartney (27 bowling avg and a WPM of 1.3, despite ataraxia's point I think he looks an all-rounder over careers to me)
de Grandhomme (Pretty Good, should definitely had been ahead of Oram)

 

[Prince EWS]

Akram
Macartney
de Grandhomme

 

[Line and Length]

Akram (If Hammond is an all-rounder with 44.5 avg vs Australia, so is Akram with a 257*)
MaCartney (27 bowling avg and a WPM of 1.3, despite ataraxia's point I think he looks an all-rounder over careers to me)
de Grandhomme (Pretty Good, should definitely had been ahead of Oram)

Take away that innings and he barely averages 20 in Tests.

 

[Qlder]

Take away that innings and he barely averages 20 in Tests.

Well if you're doing that to Akram then you could also take out McCartney's 11 wkt Test so he then averages 34 with the ball and drops to 1.0 WPM

For a guy with only 45 wkts in 35 tests that 11 wkt test is huge.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

de Grandhomme (Pretty Good, should definitely had been ahead of Oram)

Oram was a much better batsman, while CDG was a better bowler (and was part of a better bowling attack).