18th June - FINAL - India vs Pakistan

[Shri]

I expect apologies from everyone (fred's already given me one) who mocked me and Pratters for the prediction and said it was gambhiring ftr. When I gambhir, I admit it... like in the Aus series, where I was unabashedly gambhiring.

But here, I was rightly pessimistic because I had serious concerns about our bowling (especially the lack of wicket taking ability) and the middle order of Yuvraj-MSD-Jadhav which had barely had a hit in this tournament, If you want to mock my prediction fine, ****s. But get it right... it wasn't gambhiring. It was perfectly reasonable pessimism.

Piss off. 250 off 30 overs with AshWIN yet to bat. Ashwin's got this.

 

[Contra]

He's been bad for a very long time now. Love the guy, but I think it's time for Pant.

Please do define "bad". Like honestly don't get ODI's and T20's mixed up. Even Dhawan and Rohit have been terrible in T20's but you'd still take them in ODI's. Dhoni was originally suppose to take up #4 but then Yuvraj came in and it went to him. Dhoni's been making way for everyone all these years and still isn't batting at his preferred spot. Ask any other team in the world and they'd still take Dhoni in their ODI team.

 

[smash84]

I expect apologies from everyone (fred's already given me one) who mocked me and Pratters for the prediction and said it was gambhiring ftr. When I gambhir, I admit it... like in the Aus series, where I was unabashedly gambhiring.

But here, I was rightly pessimistic because I had serious concerns about our bowling (especially the lack of wicket taking ability) and the middle order of Yuvraj-MSD-Jadhav which had barely had a hit in this tournament, If you want to mock my prediction fine, ****s. But get it right... it wasn't gambhiring. It was perfectly reasonable pessimism.

The, it was hard to say if you were gambhiring or not

 

[DriveClub]

Thought he did a very decent job with the ball too. I'm certainly very excited. He might not be a Stokes level talent but he could prove to be pretty damn good.

Needs better fashion sense, has time on his hands

 

[vcs]

Man you guys are really stretching it by suggesting MS should be dropped. The guy played ONE innings this whole tournament, how are you expecting the middle order to rescue you chasing 330+ when your top order goes to ****. Yes the team needs a bit of change, and perhaps Yuvraj has to go from the ODI team (I was willing to give him this tournament but 2019 is not happening).

His keeping still looks excellent. I also would hate to see him go. But it's time we seriously start thinking about alternatives.

 

[Teja.]

Sorry Hardik, even if you win us today's match, I won't name my first born after you.

 

[Daemon]

47 more to avoid the follow on then

 

[OverratedSanity]

Please do define "bad". Like honestly don't get ODI's and T20's mixed up. Even Dhawan and Rohit have been terrible in T20's but you'd still take them in ODI's. Dhoni was originally suppose to take up #4 but then Yuvraj came in and it went to him. Dhoni's been making way for everyone all these years and still isn't batting at his preferred spot. Ask any other team in the world and they'd still take Dhoni in their ODI team.

I agree Dhoni could probably have been better at 4, and I think he should've been doing that this past year, but I truly believe someone like KL Rahul and Pant would offer more now.

It's probably harsh to say he' been bad since he's actually done alright, but I just really rate Pant and KL and think it's time to give them a go.

 

[Contra]

His keeping still looks excellent. I also would hate to see him go. But it's time we seriously start thinking about alternatives.

Alternatives for what exactly? The issue with India is not Dhoni, it's their ineffective way of utilizing the talent that they have. Ravindra Jadeja is a better batsmen than #8, we need to give him a better role in ODI's and use him as an extra bowling option, Ashwin has to go as his batting is non-existant in ODI's and he's simply not that good a bowler in limited overs anymore, we need an attacking spinner with Jadeja as the second spinner option. Then we need at least 3 pacers + Pandya.

Somehow we have to put together a team that has enough bowling options without losing out on batting depth. Right now we are using 2 batting all rounders as full time bowlers which shouldn't be the case.

 

[vcs]

Hardik's played well so far. Needs to go on with it, be a bit selfish here. India's never gonna win here, play normally, get a hundred somehow and solidify your spot for a couple of years.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Needs better fashion sense

Seems to have done well for himself despite that.

 

[Teja.]

Man. The Frustrated Indian facebook page shitting itself is top kek. Small silver linings.

Saddened? You think India has lost the plot? Want to feel better? Wait for next few posts

This has to be the most royal humiliation of Pakistan ever - rightlog.in

The Negotiation table after Surgical Strike - rightlog.in

Sushma Swaraj makes clear to Pakistan, the repercussions of executing Kulbhushan Jadhav - rightlog.in

Super PM Modi has reduced the all Powerful Pakistani Military Cartel to a bunch of clowns - rightlog.in

 

[vcs]

Alternatives for what exactly? The issue with India is not Dhoni, it's their ineffective way of utilizing the talent that they have. Ravindra Jadeja is a better batsmen than #8, we need to give him a better role in ODI's and use him as an extra bowling option, Ashwin has to go as his batting is non-existant in ODI's and he's simply not that good a bowler in limited overs anymore, we need an attacking spinner with Jadeja as the second spinner option. Then we need at least 3 pacers + Pandya.

Somehow we have to put together a team that has enough bowling options without losing out on batting depth. Right now we are using 2 batting all rounders as full time bowlers which shouldn't be the case.

We should do all those things, and also try out guys like Pant (for example in the upcoming JAMODI series against WI). I'm not even saying drop MS, but give the alternatives enough chances to make their case before WC 2019.

 

[Contra]

We should do all those things, and also try out guys like Pant (for example in the upcoming JAMODI series against WI). I'm not even saying drop MS, but give the alternatives enough chances to make their case before WC 2019.

Yeah I agree with that, I didn't say we shouldn't try Pant, but he can play with MS in the team is my point.

 

[Howe_zat]

Pandya is a star.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Heh he's definitely got some hitting ability

 

[Teja.]

jFC

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[smash84]

wow, pandya doing some real fireworks here

 

[Contra]

OMG! Pandya!

 

[91Jmay]

Pandya is an incredible talent.Should get a promotion and be given a Stokes like role.