12th Match - Afghanistan v Sri Lanka

[Spark]

How is reducing the margin making it worse though. The real margins of the equipment are probably very small, conditional, and will just confuse the **** out of everyone. Therefore, if we're going to use arbitrary margins they should be smaller than they are currently.

You're making it worse because it's a hell of a lot harder to tell what constitutes 25% of the ball hitting the stumps as opposed to 50%. There'll be no real way to tell why one is ump's call and one isn't without getting out a ruled on the screenshot after the fact.

With a system like this which is necessarily arbitrary, making it clear is more important than fine tuning in an attempt to get an ill-defined absolute "fairness".

 

[Zinzan]

Love watching Herath bowl. He's such a good cricketer.

Yup, one of those guys who seemingly plays with minimum efficiency in everything he does. Even his batting looks effortless.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

You're making it worse because it's a hell of a lot harder to tell what constitutes 25% of the ball hitting the stumps as opposed to 50%. There'll be no real way to tell why one is ump's call and one isn't without getting out a ruled on the screenshot after the fact.

With a system like this which is necessarily arbitrary, making it clear is more important than fine tuning in an attempt to get an ill-defined absolute "fairness".

I didn't suggest 25%. I don't care exactly what the new margin is, but should be less than the current one. Ideally we'd use the actual scientific margins and all but that's not going to happen.

 

[Spark]

I didn't suggest 25%. I don't care exactly what the new margin is, but should be less than the current one. Ideally we'd use the actual scientific margins and all but that's not going to happen.

But this is exactly why it makes the system worse. A nebulous desire to just make it less by some ill-defined amount won't actually remove the sense of injustice from the system, which is the fundamental source of all these complaints. It'll just start all loads of angst over whether 24% of the ball is hitting or 26%.

 

[Zinzan]

You're making it worse because it's a hell of a lot harder to tell what constitutes 25% of the ball hitting the stumps as opposed to 50%. There'll be no real way to tell why one is ump's call and one isn't without getting out a ruled on the screenshot after the fact.

With a system like this which is necessarily arbitrary, making it clear is more important than fine tuning in an attempt to get an ill-defined absolute "fairness".

I agree with wellAibidarned, if it's currently 50% of the ball hitting and is automatically measured from the still-shot of the photo, then you could make it 25% using the same photo. It still won't be perfect, but it reduces the umpires influence, which at the moment I think most agree is too much. .

 

[NUFAN]

Hey Goughy thoughts on Perera vs Woakes?

 

[Spark]

I agree with wellAibidarned, if it's currently 50% of the ball hitting and is automatically measured from the still-shot of the photo, then you could make it 25% using the same photo. It still won't be perfect, but it reduces the umpires influence, which at the moment I think most agree is too much. .

The computer could do it, sure. But the bloke on the couch couldn't. It's really, really easy to tell when 50% of the ball is hitting, so that makes is absolutely clear.

Anyway, this debate is far less interesting than how ****ing awesome that shot was

 

[viriya]

Thisara getting slaughtered by the Afghans is great for SL.

 

[Zinzan]

But this is exactly why it makes the system worse. A nebulous desire to just make it less by some ill-defined amount won't actually remove the sense of injustice from the system, which is the fundamental source of all these complaints. It'll just start all loads of angst over whether 24% of the ball is hitting or 26%.

It's actually objective if a computer is measuring it, so 24.8% of the ball hitting wouldn't be good enough but 25.1 would. Really no different than the current 50% except the current is easier for us the viewer to see.

 

[Spark]

whyyy

 

[Spark]

It's actually objective if a computer is measuring it, so 24.8% of the ball hitting wouldn't be good enough but 25.1 would. Really no different than the current 50% except the current is easier for us the viewer to see.

That's literally my whole point.

 

[anil1405]

Shenwari goes now. They had scored enough runs in the over so this shot was not needed. Poor application.

 

[viriya]

The computer could do it, sure. But the bloke on the couch couldn't. It's really, really easy to tell when 50% of the ball is hitting, so that makes is absolutely clear.

Anyway, this debate is far less interesting than how ****ing awesome that shot was

I'm sure the blokes who came up with the tech can give a better margin of error than what it is now.

Why Nabi why??

Why make Thisara look good?

 

[Riggins]

I just saw the replay of the LBW. Jesus that's absolutely plumb.

I think at the very least you keep the 50% of the ball hitting and make the 'target' the outside of the stump rather than the centre.

 

[Spark]

I just saw the replay of the LBW. Jesus that's absolutely plumb.

I think at the very least you keep the 50% of the ball hitting and make the 'target' the outside of the stump rather than the centre.

Yeah this makes sense IMO.

 

[Riggins]

Anyway, this debate is far less interesting than how ****ing awesome that shot was

Such a good cricket sound off Nabi's bat.

 

[Zinzan]

That's literally my whole point.

I'd rather a touch more ambiguity for the viewer if it means reducing the umpires current influence. The fairer the better for me.

 

[viriya]

Afghanistan at 10% at Betfair..

If you ignore the fact its Afghanistan and focus just on the current position, their odds of winning are 60%..

Interesting.

 

[Spark]

I'd rather a touch more ambiguity for the viewer if it means reducing the umpires current influence. The fairer the better for me.

Quantised arbitrariness doesn't give you fairness, it gives you consistency.

 

[Spark]

Such a good cricket sound off Nabi's bat.

They better have mics this good for the rest of the ****ing tournament