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  1. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Look, it's really not that complicated. The reason the tolerance level was increased was as a result of the in-game research. And umpires are no longer calling throwing on the field, but bowlers are being reported by the match referee for analysis if they think there's a chance the action is...
  2. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    The incident where Ranatunga "manhandled" Emerson was when he tried to shift him closer to the stumps (at the bowlers' end) so that he had far less room to see Murali's action at the point of delivery. And yeah, you could call that Ranatunga overstepping his brief. :)
  3. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Yeah, but obviously I'm not defending social's argumentative technique (and I rate his engineer/scientist trashtalking a C- :p). You're avoiding my question a tad. What I'm asking is, assuming that an umpire in the field could accurately discern an arm straightening (which all umpires previous...
  4. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    I don't know if you think you've done a grand job in arguing your case, but if you do, you're likely the only one. You've been shown to be at best uninformed and at worst plain wrong when it comes to whether bowlers were transgressing the old laws, what research has been done (and what the new...
  5. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    I know you didn't ask me, and I probably couldn't come up with the time and dates of Murali's testing, but this might be useful, I guess: http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/141718.html McGrath: "When I found out that the testing could be done in match situations with...
  6. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Obviously knowing what we do now, I happen to think that the field umpires aren't really equipped to judge a degree of flexion inside 15 odd degrees full stop, but out of curiosity, what leads you to be so certain of this premise? I'm not sure how superior a view an umpire has of a minute...
  7. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Yes, but incorrectly. Once you accept that all bowlers were transgressing, you realise why the rules had to be changed - it was a choice of introducing a realistic limit or banning/suspending them all. My main point is that it's wrong to isolate Hair, because everybody was chucking according...
  8. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Well, I believe C_C is saying that Hair's call was justified given the circumstances and he may also have been unfairly criticized. I think it's maybe other posters still making that an issue.
  9. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    That doesn't change the point. You don't dictate "the truth" solely by what an umpire adjudicates. So calling McGrath's deliveries (at the time that no flexion whatsoever was allowed) legal is a falsehood. And I think you know it. The fact that his action to the naked eye, bent elbow and...
  10. Slow Love™

    ***Official*** South Africa in Australia

    Best moment of commentary all afternoon was when Graeme Smith was holding onto Ntini and patting and rubbing him on the head after a wicket, and Tony Grieg excitedly blurted "Well, that's marvellous! Something you wouldn't have seen in the old South Africa!".
  11. Slow Love™

    ***Official*** South Africa in Australia

    I couldn't really follow the reasoning in the commentary booth on this one. My understanding was that, once you've grounded your bat, providing you're not attempting another run, you're safe. If you want to jump in the air afterwards, it shouldn't matter. Am I wrong about this? I would have...
  12. Slow Love™

    ***Official*** South Africa in Australia

    Clearly out. Good call from Bucknor.
  13. Slow Love™

    ***Official*** South Africa in Australia

    This is exactly why we shouldn't over-extrapolate from those Windies games (hell, even at times in those we looked vulnerable). I don't know why people were so convinced this series would be uncompetitive. This South African lineup is not a bad one in the slightest. Of course, if we can crawl...
  14. Slow Love™

    ***Official*** South Africa in Australia

    You have got to be ****ting me.
  15. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Then we're on pretty much exactly the same page. Isn't that nice for a change? :p
  16. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    This is poor reasoning, mate. The law was that there could be no straightening of the arm. If McGrath ever straightened his arm (and scientific evidence suggests that he did), he was breaking the law. The problem was twofold: a) The law was in fact, unable to be policed accurately or fairly...
  17. Slow Love™

    *Official* Warne vs Murali Discussion

    Yeah, maybe it's time to restate our arguments. I'm with you on all of this. The point I wanted to make was that, although Murali most definitely copped a raw deal, I think that Hair's decision at the time was quite defendable, and to a degree he's also copped his share of unfair criticism...
  18. Slow Love™

    Breaking news: Chingoka and Bvute 'removed from office'

    Latest update: Government could move to suspend Zimbabwe board There were also unconfirmed reports that Themba Mliswa, the controversial figure whose threats forced former Zimbabwe captain Tatenda Taibu into early retirement, might be appointed as chairman of the interim board. Mliswa, a...
  19. Slow Love™

    The New Shoaib

    I love Shoaib, and I'm really fascinated by this new slower ball of his - I haven't seen it yet. BTW, out of curiosity, has he shortened his runup significantly at all?
  20. Slow Love™

    Australian XI: 1995-2005

    Retired in '94. :)

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