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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    I refuse to believe you actually consider Warne or Marshall full fledge ARs. If they are batting at 8 their entire career, bottomline the team ain't really relying on their batting, they are just better than the rest of the tail. And don't say I don't care what term you use when it's the point...
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    If we are so exclusive that Kallis can't be called an AR it puts the criteria iñ question.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    Yes. I prefer it that way. Same for asking for bats who regularly bat in the top 7, makes it exclusive to be a AR.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    Same happened to Kallis late career. They are to me the borderline ones but we shouldn't go lower.
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    Aubrey Faulkner vs Shaun Pollock (Tests)

    Pollock. Forget these old timers.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    Yeah I don't like the 1 wicket per test standard either. Carl Hooper would be an AR then. That's why I just care if they are regularly used in the 5 bowling options. I said Kallis is the minimum I would go and he is 1.5, but for much of his career nearly 2.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    We are talking minimum standard to qualify to even be called one.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    No. Wasim, Philander, etc aren't all-rounders. Has to be mid late 20s averaging at least. If you are batting in the top 7 regularly, the team is relying on you for batting strength. No.8, with some exception, is your best tailender. 5th bowlers will regularly bowl 4th change usually or even...
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    Hadlee. Ashwin is a special case because he batted 8 more mostly due to Jadeja ahead of him. Vettori is also a special case who chose to bat no.8 as well.
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    Kohli Test Average

    Maybe I could be wrong, but losing the World Cup last year seems to have broke him.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    Yeah that's why they are all borderline to me. As in, I can't accept less than them to entertain as all-rounders. Otherwise they are useful tailenders or part time bowlers.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    I see Hadlee/Ashwin as the minimum standard bat and Kallis as the minimum standard bowler.
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    Kohli Test Average

    I don't get the Kohli hate. It's sad to see him like this.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    My criteria is someone who bats in the top 7 and bowls regularly as five bowlers. But no 5fer or century can weed out quite a few.
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    Bowling All Rounders or Batting All Rounders +

    I prefer the bowling all-rounder as long as he is a great captain.
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Yeah. I think after the recent whitewash, we don't need to get so worked up.
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Yes
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    I don't expect Steyn to succeed in every game. Plenty of other ATG pacers have quiet games or unpenetrative spells. But it's another thing to be knocked around as leader of the attack regularly. Again, because you didn't see the game, Steyn was knocked around by the openers and middle order and...
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    Benefits aren't exaggerated which is why most of us put him in the top five pacers ever. Dude you think I am worked up over this over him being neutralised in dull foregone drawn games in the UAE? Nah. It's about actual awful performances he has done in games that have damaged SA. Here are...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Nobody is saying there weren't major turners and lottery pitches back then, but the frequency of Day 1 turners is more now.

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