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  1. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/threads/3rd-best-english-pacer-medium-pacer.91246/post-5123662 Sunny's peak was from 76 to 83..... Seems familiar? His peak totally coincided with Viv's. Chappell had the media backing and by considering 80s only, Border was better than both Viv and Sunny. Peer...
  2. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I again apologize, this was a splendid thread
  3. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I would think most don't have much between him and Hutton (can reference the Gavaskar vs Hutton thread) and most will have Hutton right in that company. That thread wasn't 2 months old, but was from when I was totally a new comer. I literally didn't know anything about you, Coronis, Pews or any...
  4. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Mostly this I think too. The discussion got way off track by Subs' Miandad comment really.
  5. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I respect Peterhrt, but he predominantly rates people different than me. He rates them much more on impact in their time and peer reviews, hence Lillee over Marshall and McGrath or Trumper over Hutton. I believe Barry is one of his personal favourites based on watching live. I find this...
  6. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I more strenuously disagree with your disagreement.
  7. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I, Pews, Coronis, Shortpitched, PFK, Thala (the latter probably shares my stand); off the top of my head.
  8. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    The guilt of destroying a really great thread will haunt me for some time......
  9. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Fair. I also rate Richards ahead, mostly due to his ability to accelerate and having better series against top draws like 79 Australia (mostly 79 Australia, most of his other best series are atleast matched by 1 from Gavaskar, home or away). I just don't think the gap is much significant.
  10. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Yes, thank God you brought up legacy. As in the 1st away series win outside of NZ...... India were minnower than WI. Don't think Gavaskar scored vs Holder, Noregia, Sobers and Gibbs; but that Gavaskar alone matched the output of Sobers, who played a weaker bowling, earning a draw.
  11. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Against pace on faster tracks, frankly not a convo. As is the ability on a slow turner.
  12. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I think the conversation shan't just be about credentials tbh. It should be on achievement, not what one could had achieved in another timeline. Gavaskar's best work to pace in a fast track are still probably his tons vs Thomson and Clarke in Waca and Gabba.
  13. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I would rate Amarnath 83 as the best series by any Indian ever. But wasn't that important in the Grand scheme of things given India didn't won a single match. 71 was the 2nd win of India away, and after Sardesai's double in the 1st match, completely on the backs of Gavaskar. ****ing calypsos...
  14. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Simply because cricket is played in the field not in stat sheets. You said he shan't get any credit for 71, I said it was the most important series by any Indian batter arguably ever.
  15. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I overall find plucking holes in Gavaskar's '76 tour futile. It wasn't exactly a low scorer, but wasn't extremely flat either. Overall a Great series with 3 successes in 4 matches. '83 was genuinely piss poor bar a ton in a dead draw. '71 series I still think his best work there. Weak bowling...
  16. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    I think I have addressed this already. Roberts played one of the Tests as well in which he scored a ton. He failed completely in 83, no point in dissecting, and scored everywhere in 71. Given chance or not, there are reports of Holding bowling beamers there as well. 66 works fine in such conditions.
  17. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Viv in England = Sunny in Pakistan (Both the best Batsmen in those countries (not counting Don)) Viv in Australia > Sunny in WI (Sunny had 2 Great series, but failed in the toughest one. Viv is ahead in Australia for 79, was pretty good in 76 as well; but not by a huge margin) Viv in Pakistan =...
  18. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Fair that is. I still think overall I won't call any country away a particular hole, with failing in some series vs big names being the most acceptable caveat.
  19. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    Overall, I really am founding it difficult to say he Gavaskar had comparable away records. I believe I made a comparison list, mostly while talking with HHH, that showed country by country Gavaskar and Viv had pretty close away records comparing strength to strength to strength and weakness to...
  20. capt_Luffy

    Jack Hobbs vs Sachin Tendulkar

    But Holding was there. And the last one was a blood bath.

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