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Battle of the Subcontinent

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
Well it depends on what you classify as an all-time great.
I would say he's among the top 5 batsmen produced by India.
Overall, he's easily among the top 50 batsmen ever and on the outskirts of the top 25 probably, IMO.
Ok i would agree on top 10 India have produced, but he probably be quite high up there. Top 25 overall, from memory there is about 30 odd batsmen who averaged over 50 in Test Cricket and more if you limit it to just 10 Test. So i would personally find it hard to rank in in the top 40. Mind you averaging over 50 isn't the benchmark for being a great batsmen, and there would be guys that averaged in the 40s that i would rate quite high.
 

adharcric

International Coach
chaminda_00 said:
Ok i would agree on top 10 India have produced, but he probably be quite high up there. Top 25 overall, from memory there is about 30 odd batsmen who averaged over 50 in Test Cricket and more if you limit it to just 10 Test. So i would personally find it hard to rank in in the top 40. Mind you averaging over 50 isn't the benchmark for being a great batsmen, and there would be guys that averaged in the 40s that i would rate quite high.
Several of the 50+ batsmen weren't that great. I would probably have him somewhere in the 30s or possibly the 40s. Would you still call that an all-time great?
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
Several of the 50+ batsmen weren't that great. I would probably have him somewhere in the 30s or possibly the 40s. Would you still call that an all-time great?
Nah Top 20 would be all time great for me. The rest are just very good batsmen, or one of the best batsmen of their era.
 

adharcric

International Coach
chaminda_00 said:
Nah Top 20 would be all time great for me. The rest are just very good batsmen, or one of the best batsmen of their era.
Then it should be interesting to see who is classified as an all-time great and who isn't, based on the Ranking the Batsmen thread. :)
 
bagapath said:
i am going for mankad



lillee doesnt belong in this list. he played 70 tests and got 355 wickets, a world record. along with hadlee he is the only fast bowler to average more than five wickets per test in post war test cricket in the 100 wickets + club. he is one of the greatest any which way you look at it. i rate marshall and hadlee higher. but lillee has a strong case to be called the greatest of his era anyway. he is not some cricketer deprived of enough opportunities to rely on "rated very highly by your contemporaries" to be in contention.
Lillee was hardly a great bowler.He was a green top bully & his miserable record in subcontinent proves.There is no b doubt that he was a good bowler but doesn't deserve to be in Marshall/McGrath/Imran/Hadlee/Akram/Ambrose category.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Umrigar is among the ten greatest batsmen from India ever IMO, but Sachin by miles.

1) Tendulkar 2) Gavaskar 3) Dravid 4) Hazare 5) Merchant 6) Viswanath 7) Umrigar 8) Azharuddin 9) Sehwag 10) Vengsarkar

What do you think guys?
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
adharcric said:
Umrigar is among the ten greatest batsmen from India ever IMO, but Sachin by miles.

1) Tendulkar 2) Gavaskar 3) Dravid 4) Hazare 5) Merchant 6) Viswanath 7) Umrigar 8) Azharuddin 9) Sehwag 10) Vengsarkar

What do you think guys?
I would put Merchant ahead of Hazare, I think. And Sehwag ahead of Azhar.

Other than that, looks very good.
 

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