Ravichandran Ashwin vs Steve Waugh

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[DrWolverine]

Steve Waugh and it is not even close

 

[Johan]

Don't get the logic behind these, if a Batsman had equivalent away numbers to Ashwin and was dropped away as regularly, nobody would even compare him to Steve Waugh.

 

[vidiq]

Ashwin is only comparable with players like , Kane Williamson,Warner, jayavaradhan.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Don't get the logic behind these, if a Batsman had equivalent away numbers to Ashwin and was dropped away as regularly, nobody would even compare him to Steve Waugh.

Overall, the only country Ashwin was truly bad in was SA. He has enough silver linings in Australia with a hefty WPM and a very solid average in England. And he got some real shitters in Saffa. And Ashwin isn't the only highly rated bowler who was dropped consistently away *wink wink*

 

[Johan]

Overall, the only country Ashwin was truly bad in was SA. He has enough silver linings in Australia with a hefty WPM and a very solid average in England. And he got some real shitters in Saffa. And Ashwin isn't the only highly rated bowler who was dropped consistently away *wink wink*

same all can be said for Kane Williamson.

also, the other guy being dropped for away games, could also just be overrated garbage.

 

[vidiq]

Overall, the only country Ashwin was truly bad in was SA. He has enough silver linings in Australia with a hefty WPM and a very solid average in England. And he got some real shitters in Saffa. And Ashwin isn't the only highly rated bowler who was dropped consistently away *wink wink*

Ashwin in SA/Eng/NZ/Aus/Pak
25 Tests. 68 wickets.
Avg of 41. Zero 5Fers.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Ashwin in SA/Eng/NZ/Aus/Pak
25 Tests. 68 wickets.
Avg of 41. Zero 5Fers.

Really dude......

 

[capt_Luffy]

same all can be said for Kane Williamson.

also, the other guy being dropped for away games, could also just be overrated garbage.

It is said about Williamson. His home output isn't as Great as Ashwin overall imo and his record in England, India, SA and SL, as a leading batsman is very underwhelming. Again, Ashwin's record is perfectly fine in England (averages 28) and Australia (plenty big moments, contributions in wins and draws, outperformed Lyon, good WPM overall).

 

[Johan]

It is said about Williamson. His home output isn't as Great as Ashwin overall imo and his record in England, India, SA and SL, as a leading batsman is very underwhelming. Again, Ashwin's record is perfectly fine in England (averages 28) and Australia (plenty big moments, contributions in wins and draws, outperformed Lyon, good WPM overall).

Hm, averaging 70 in swingy conditions isn't as good as Ashwin at home? and didn't Kane perform in super bowler friendly conditions of the rose bowl to win the WTC? and has a big series in Australia? sounds similar enough to me.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hm, averaging 70 in swingy conditions isn't as good as Ashwin at home? and didn't Kane perform in super bowler friendly conditions of the rose bowl to win the WTC? and has a big series in Australia? sounds similar enough to me.

Ashwin was the reason India won consistently everything at home for 12 years. Think that counts for something really. Kane is good in Australia, but Ashwin is better in SL (against Sangakkara, Mathews, Chandimal, Samaraweera, etc was a very good batting at Home). Then you add his batting and don't think I will have him much behind Steve Waugh overall.

 

[Johan]

Ashwin was the reason India won consistently everything at home for 12 years. Think that counts for something really. Kane is good in Australia, but Ashwin is better in SL (against Sangakkara, Mathews, Chandimal, Samaraweera, etc was a very good batting at Home). Then you add his batting and don't think I will have him much behind Steve Waugh overall.

fair enough, I just remembered Steve Waugh has sub 40 RPI and 48 avg without minnow bashing

 

[vidiq]

fair enough, I just remembered Steve Waugh has sub 40 RPI and 48 avg without minnow bashing

Minnows like?

 

[Johan]

Minnows like?

early 90s Lanka, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe

 

[vidiq]

fair enough, I just remembered Steve Waugh has sub 40 RPI and 48 avg without minnow bashing

Why brian Lara was not that good against teams other than top 5 of his Times?
Against bottom most teams (outside top 5)

BC Lara - He scored 3456 runs in 65 innings at an average of 54.85 with 10 centuries.

Steve Waugh- He scored 4208 runs in 89 innings at an average of 63.75 with 15 centuries

 

[vidiq]

Among the top 10 batsmans since 1990
Only Ponting , lara and Root averages <60 against lower rank teams (other than top 5 teams according to w/l Ratio)

 

[Johan]

can't really say, you have to tell who you are taking as bottom 5?

 

[vidiq]

can't really say, you have to tell who you are taking as bottom 5?

Bottom ranked Teams (teams outside top 5 as per w/l Ratio)
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In 90s (1990- Dec2000) era - ENG, NZ ,Zim ,Sl and Bang(2000 year).

In 00 era - Zim , Bang , Wi and NZ .

2010s- present - Zim, Bang, Sl , Pak , Wi and Ireland.

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**** **Kumar Sangakkara **- He scored **5518** **runs** in **86** innings at an **average** of **73.57** With **20** **centuries**.



**- Kallis** - He scored **5735 Runs** in 113 innings at an average of **61.66 With 21 centuries**.

- **Kane Williamson - He scored 5171 runs in 85 innings at an average of 68.94 with 18 centuries.**

**- Joe Root** - He scored **4563 runs in 91 innings at an average of 54.32 with 14 centuries.**

**- Ricky Ponting** - He scored **4245** runs in 88 innings at **56.6 AVG **With **13 centuries**.

**Steve Waugh**- He scored **4208 runs** in 89 innings at an **average of 63.75** with **15 centuries**.

** - Graeme Smith** - he scored **3680 runs **in 66 innings at **59.35 AVG** with **14 centuries**.

- **BC Lara** - He scored **3456 runs** in 65 innings at an **average of 54.85** with **10 centuries** .

- **ABD** - He scored **3238 runs** in **56 innings** at an **average of 68.89** with **11 centuries**.

- **Steve Smith** - He scored **2836 runs** in **55** innings at an **average of 64.45** with **9 centuries**.

 

[kyear2]

I would say Waugh and not close, only due to to the fact that I have one as an ATG and the other not.

 

[kyear2]

Don't get the logic behind these, if a Batsman had equivalent away numbers to Ashwin and was dropped away as regularly, nobody would even compare him to Steve Waugh.

That's a valid point.