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Abdul Qadir VS M S Dhoni
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sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
If it's test, MS Dhoni.
If ODI's are included, MS Dhoni by a light year.
If ODI's are included, MS Dhoni by a light year.
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SillyCowCorner1
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capt_Luffy
International Coach
The distance between them in Tests and in ODIs is probably roughly the same.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Qadir the bowler is around equal to Dhoni the batter in test, And rate Dhoni pretty highly to spinners.
But the gap is clearly bigger in ODI's imo. Dhoni is an ATG batter, keeper and captain, while Qadir was just decent.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Qadir in ODIs was really good. Think should make top 10 spinners
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Top 10 probably, not ATG for me. And even if he were, Dhoni is a top 6/7 batter, arguably the greatest keeper and captain, don't think Qadir is in the convo.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Yeah, I was just hating on Qadir in Tests and saying he was a very good ODI bowler. Don't bring in logic here, fk u
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
fk u 2 𝕓Ïç.
Cricket Bliss
U19 Debutant
Tests only
Is Dhoni unanimously ahead of Qadir?
Qadir atleast has 3 five wicket hauls in WENA conditions.
Is Dhoni unanimously ahead of Qadir?
Qadir atleast has 3 five wicket hauls in WENA conditions.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Even if Qadir the bowler was better than Dhoni the batter, He'd still have to overcome Dhoni's keeping, which was decent imo.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
I’ll be honest, 2 of them came against very poor batting lineups - which in both he couldn’t nab the wickets of the quality batsmen who were there. 2 of them he also conceded over 150 runs.
His record is so home biased its crazy. And his home record isn’t even that great.
I have no comment on comparing bowler to a keeper batsman, but 3 5-five wickets hauls should be seen with Qadir having away avg of 47-48 with SR of 97.
Here is his entire break up, I don't think it makes any difference how many 5-fers he got when his over all numbers are so horrible.
smash84
The Tiger King
For ODIs, they shouldn't even be discussed in a poll. Dhoni is one of the greatest ever to play ODIs.
For tests, it is probably closer. Dhoni wasn't very good in tests, but neither was Abdul Qadir. Although AQ did manage to win a few tests with stellar performances. I can't remember any of Dhoni's match winning test performances off the top of my head (cbf looking it up). So for tests Abdul Qadir probably.
For tests, it is probably closer. Dhoni wasn't very good in tests, but neither was Abdul Qadir. Although AQ did manage to win a few tests with stellar performances. I can't remember any of Dhoni's match winning test performances off the top of my head (cbf looking it up). So for tests Abdul Qadir probably.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Without looking much, I think this one counts:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-australia-1st-test-598812/live-cricket-score
smash84
The Tiger King
Good point. If he has at least 3 that should make it closer for tests IMO.
Abdul Qadir did have some match-winning spells at home against the WI. Possibly some abroad in England as well. Tbf to Dhoni he wasn't a complete mug with the bat in tests, but he was quite ordinary.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
He has 2 MoTMs, both vs Australia:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-australia-2nd-test-345670/live-cricket-score
Qadir definitely won Pakistan quite a few games, especially at home. But his away record is really a bit way too poor. 47.6 is a bit too much imho.