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Ian Botham vs Shaun Pollock

Better Cricketer

  • Total voters
    24
subshakerz

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Thala_0710 said:
Both of them are bowling All rounders. When comparing as cricketers, primary skill matters much more than secondary skill because of the impact it has (separate discussion for AR). Hence Pollock for me.
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Yeah but Botham's secondary skill is basically enough to be a test standard batsman and he was batting in the top six, that itself is already huge impact, whereas Pollock was mostly soft runs at the end.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
ataraxia said:
voted Pollock, Pollock easily a superior bowler in his peak, Botham easily a superior batsman in his peak, so used the rest of their careers as the tiebreaker.
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Except Botham was still a worldclass bowler in his peak along with being a good bat, Pollock was nowhere close to being a worldclass bat or even a test standard bat.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
capt_Luffy said:
Again, I think it would be closer had Pollock been a Walsh level bat.
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This is odd since you voted for Kapil in the Kapil vs Walsh thread.

Pollock isn't as good a bowler as Walsh and Botham is a Kapil level bowler while being a much better bat.

So basically you think Pollocks batting is really that valuable. That's where I think you may be wrong.
 
Johan

Johan

International Captain
subshakerz said:
Botham clearly is an ATG AR to me. Not ATG in either discipline but sheer collective output is quite staggering.
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as I said earlier, I think The rib injury finished him off and he was a legacy act after that, so to me he's like a 35-27 player and thus I rate him as an easy ATG too.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
subshakerz said:
This is odd since you voted for Kapil in the Kapil vs Walsh thread.

Pollock isn't as good a bowler as Walsh and Botham is a Kapil level bowler while being a much better bat.

So basically you think Pollocks batting is really that valuable. That's where I think you may be wrong.
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I rate Walsh and Pollock the same as bowlers, as I do Kapil and Botham. Now, I do rate Botham quite higher than Kapil as batters, but not enough to be in different tiers. Walsh is in the same tier and I am not sure on him vs Kapil. Now add that Shaun averages 30 with the bat, and I think I will have ahead.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
capt_Luffy said:
I rate Walsh and Pollock the same as bowlers, as I do Kapil and Botham. Now, I do rate Botham quite higher than Kapil as batters, but not enough to be in different tiers. Walsh is in the same tier and I am not sure on him vs Kapil. Now add that Shaun averages 30 with the bat, and I think I will have ahead.
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Reckon Pollock might be the worst bat to average over 30 with over 1,000 runs.
 
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