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Better combo
- Thread starter kyear2
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capt_Luffy
International Coach
Yeah, pretty straightforward really.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Imran and Steyn are very close as bowlers with an edge to Steyn.
Kallis and Tendulkar are not.
Imran's batting > Kallis bowling.
Kallis and Tendulkar are not.
Imran's batting > Kallis bowling.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Yeah I am interested in the arguments for the Kallis pair here really. I will take Tendulkar and Imran over Kallis and Steyn individually as well. Had it been someone like say Marshall for Steyn, I would have gave it a thought and went with this pair anyways. Now Sobers for Kallis and the things are Good.
DrWolverine
International Debutant
In SL, Steyn averages 30 & Kallis averages 35.
In Eng, Steyn averages 31 & Kallis averages 35.
The only country Sachin Tendulkar averages less than 46 is Pakistan and Imran Khan is literally God of bowling in that place with an average of 19 there
In Eng, Steyn averages 31 & Kallis averages 35.
The only country Sachin Tendulkar averages less than 46 is Pakistan and Imran Khan is literally God of bowling in that place with an average of 19 there
DrWolverine
International Debutant
Bowlers win matches more than batsmen in Tests and Steyn is a better bowler than Imran Khan.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Eh hardly better. I mean he is better but don't think by any notable distance.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Actually this is an interesting combo argument by looking country by country how they do.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I have Steyn ahead and its very close between them.
I don't think Kallis' fifth bowling option really outweighs this.
sayon basak
International Captain
Bruh.
kyear2
International Coach
Tendulkar is ahead of Kallis as a batsman, but Kallis adds his relief bowler duties and is an elite slip fielder, one of the greatest ever.
Steyn is also ahead of Imran as a bowler, and Imran brings his lower order batting.
As a total package Kallis more valuable than Tendulkar to any team ever, not to mention would be a critical part of Steyn's success in the cordon. Likewise many teams would go with Imran's overall package over Steyn.
I was initially going to go with Tendulkar and Imran vs Sobers and Marshall, but that has the potential to be a powder keg and wanted to see how this one would turn out.
But to ask what the argument would even be for the former, is a little off. Kallis has more advantages over Tendulkar than Imran has over Steyn.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Whatever dude. We aren't buying what you are selling with this thread.
kyear2
International Coach
What am I selling?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Different variations of threads to upgrade Kallis at the expense of Imran, clearly.
I'm happy this vote backfired for you.
ataraxia
International Coach
what about peak Imran as a batter when he averaged 60
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
What did he average as a bat then?
Imrans batting was better for longer than Kallis and his bowling, so I guess it's kinda factored in when looking at their careers as a whole.
Low 40s. His bowling then dropped off and his batting flourished
kyear2
International Coach
Oh Jesus.
You are ****ing insane.
I have Imran top 10 all time, Kallis closer to 15, I don't think Kallis is better.
Imran has the jump on primary, so harder to ever catch up.
As I said in another thread, Kallis is more valuable for a team, but that's over practically everyone.