Jack Hobbs vs Garry Sobers

[Johan]

Um.....This is not a test only list. Test was given the highest priority, but limited over for modern players and FC for older players were also taken into account.

And yeah, you're right about McGrath. I'm just not sure about the 10th-14th spot at all.

2, 3, 4, 5, 6 still stand imo

 

[Johan]

Most of these issues gets resolved once you consider it's Test + ODIs + FC etc.

2, 3, 4, 5, 6 still stand, Bumrah should get higher then tho, he's GOATed in Limited Overs as far as I know

 

[sayon basak]

Great effort. 1 question, what is the approx weightage split to Tests and ODIs in your list?

65/25/10 for Test/ODI/T20.

(The way I came up with such a precise ratio is that, ODI weightage should be 2.5 times that of T20, and Tests weightage should be 2.5 times that of tests)

 

[Johan]

65/25/10 for Test/ODI/T20.

(The way I came up with such a precise ratio is that, ODI weightage should be 2.5 times that of T20, and Tests weightage should be 2.5 times that of tests)

Interesting...formula, I saw guys like Aubrey and Grace and thought it'd be a test + FC list lol

 

[sayon basak]

2, 3, 4, 5, 6 still stand, Bumrah should get higher then tho, he's GOATed in Limited Overs as far as I know

I don't necessarily rate Bumrah/Cummins/Rabada that low, just gonna make up my mind after they're almost done.

 

[Johan]

I don't necessarily rate Bumrah/Cummins/Rabada that low, just gonna make up my mind after they're almost done.

fair

 

[sayon basak]

Interesting...formula, I saw guys like Aubrey and Grace and thought it'd be a test + FC list lol

Test+ODI/T20 for modern players, Test+FC for older players.

 

[Johan]

Test+ODI/T20 for modern players, Test+FC for older players.

**** ODIs

 

[Thala_0710]

Shouldn't Garner be a bit higher then?

 

[Johan]

Test (90%) + World Cups (10%) sounds most logical

 

[Johan]

Shouldn't Garner be a bit higher then?

Yeah Garner smokes Gavaskar with ODIs into account

 

[Thala_0710]

Yeah Garner smokes Gavaskar with ODIs into account

Yup. Gavaskar and Smith should probably have a larger gap between them, I feel intuitively

 

[sayon basak]

2, 3, 4, 5, 6 still stand imo

De Villiers is a top 4 ODI bat imo, that contributes a bit for me. McGrath should definitely be higher than Warne, I agree. Border should be higher and Dev shoould be lower, that's also okay.

And yeah, I also was thinking that I'm underrating Faulkner, just wasn't sure where to rank him.

 

[sayon basak]

**** ODIs

They are inferior cricket, but they're still cricket imo.

 

[Thala_0710]

They are inferior cricket, but they're still cricket imo.

T20IS are not even better than gully cricket at this point though. Have you watched the recent IND vs SA series?

 

[sayon basak]

@Thala_0710 btw, @capt_Luffy has a top 500 in his armory. Ask for it imo.

 

[Thala_0710]

@Thala_0710 btw, @capt_Luffy has a top 500 in his armory. Ask for it imo.

@capt_Luffy kindly do the honours

 

[subshakerz]

Most of these issues gets resolved once you consider it's Test + ODIs + FC etc.
Agree very strongly with McGrath and think Lindwall is better than Root clearly.

Warne is greater than McGrath even though McGrath is a better bowler.

 

[Johan]

post it, I'm gonna say "nice list, now let's discuss why Viv is GOATed."

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah Garner smokes Gavaskar with ODIs into account

Yup. Gavaskar and Smith should probably have a larger gap between them, I feel intuitively

Gavaskar in ODIs is overhated based on a single match when no one really had a very good idea what an ODI was. 35 average and 62 SR wasn't too shabby really, especially the SR which generally is the main critic. Haynes stroke at 63 and Greenidge at 65, despite both playing till later.