Chose one player : Lara or Kallis

[Migara]

Sanga averages just 40 as a wicket keeper batsman.

What benefit does he give me over Kallis who averages 55 with the ball and 32 with the ball?

What benefit does he give me over Hadlee who averages 22 with the ball and 27 with the ball?

It is the same with Gilly. I would rather have Knott as a wicket keeper and ATG batsman/bowler.

If I have to choose between Gilly and Kallis, I would rather have Kallis and semi decent WK bat.

On the lip side of the argument as a pure batsman Sanga averages 67. That is better than everyone by far other than for Bradman.

I won't pick Kallis over Hadlee. What I am saying is they are in same class.

Gilly provides you an almost ATG (ATG against pace) batsman and almost ATG keeper giving space for another ATG bowler or a batsman. People forget you can only have 11 in a side.

 

[kyear2]

If we go by cumulative ratings, the only players above Kallis are Sobers and Bradman?

A top 15 batsman
A top 10 slip

Arguably the 2nd best 5th bowler of all time.

However I don't rate players that way, and Lara, a pretty decent slip himself and a higher tier batsman, comes in a couple places higher than Kallis.

 

[Coronis]

On the lip side of the argument as a pure batsman Sanga averages 67. That is better than everyone by far other than for Bradman.

I love Sanga as much as the next guy, really, almost as much as @Himannv But I’m so sick of this stat being brought up.

 

[halba]

Kallis, Lara does not bowl.

 

[Coronis]

Kallis, Lara does not bowl.

 

[halba]

hhaha. i would classify it as not bowling at all! dibbly dobbs.

 

[sayon basak]

hhaha. i would classify it as not bowling at all! dibbly dobbs.

Tbf one could say that he doesn't classify Kallis' batting as batting by the same logic.

 

[subshakerz]

However I don't rate players that way, and Lara, a pretty decent slip himself and a higher tier batsman, comes in a couple places higher than Kallis.

I am honestly surprised. I thought you would rate Kallis higher.

 

[Coronis]

I am honestly surprised. I thought you would rate Kallis higher.

Actually pretty sure you guys are more aligned on Kallis than any other subject. (though thats not hard)

Maybe devaluing pre-war players too.

 

[Prince EWS]

Actually pretty sure you guys are more aligned on Kallis than any other subject. (though thats not hard)

Maybe devaluing pre-war players too.

They're pretty aligned on Kallis' batting but Kallis is also kyear2's favourite type of allrounder - frontline specialist batsman and useful fifth bowler who can take speccies at slip. So as a cricketer they're pretty divided on Kallis.

 

[subshakerz]

Actually pretty sure you guys are more aligned on Kallis than any other subject. (though thats not hard)

Maybe devaluing pre-war players too.

In an alternative universe, @kyear2 and I aren't at each other's throats all the time.

 

[sayon basak]

In an alternative universe, @kyear2 and I aren't at each other's throats all the time.

Pretty convincing argument against the existence of other universes.

 

[Coronis]

Pretty convincing argument against the existence of other universes.

One of your best

 

[Johan]

Actually pretty sure you guys are more aligned on Kallis than any other subject. (though thats not hard)

Maybe devaluing pre-war players too.

Kyear had Hobbs at 5-6 iirc which is acceptable considering he also rates Hammond. Subs probably think all these guys are street level Cricketers, so won't say their views properly align there.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kyear had Hobbs at 5-6 iirc which is acceptable considering he also rates Hammond. Subs probably think all these guys are street level Cricketers, so won't say their views properly align there.

Kyear includes Barry ****ing Richards ahead of Hobbs in his AT XI. Subz I believe still includes him after all that bitching.

 

[Johan]

Kyear includes Barry ****ing Richards ahead of Hobbs in his AT XI. Subz I believe still includes him after all that bitching.

what the ****, that actually doesn't make any sense.

 

[capt_Luffy]

what the ****, that actually doesn't make any sense.

I know. He thinks Barry is more proven.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@Johan look he replied this to

Viv Richards vs Adam Gilchrist

You need a reverser hence Imran for me but can also consider Steyn or Wasim. Iirc McGrath could reverse it if asked to and the Windies also had a variant of reverse but they weren't as good as Imran and Wasim at it.

www.cricketweb.net

 

[Johan]

I know. He thinks Barry is more proven.

nah Subs having Hobbs in his ATG XI while declaring him a club level Cricketer is actually ********.

 

[capt_Luffy]

nah Subs having Hobbs in his ATG XI while declaring him a club level Cricketer is actually ********.

Help me figure out who the No. 5 in my AT XI should be (Richards vs Others)

Viv should be 4. Tendulkar no.5 Fully agree.

www.cricketweb.net

So yeah...... Make it make sense.