Viv Richards vs steve smith

[somuyal]

Why not?

Only 8k runs

 

[Johan]

Just like Barrington is not better than sobers, similarly viv is not better than Smith.

stop it Narayana

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Only 8k runs

Are you sure it has nothing to do with Smith playing in the harder era?

 

[somuyal]

Are you sure it has nothing to do with Smith playing in the harder era?

80s was also bowling friendly.

 

[Johan]

What does Smith need to do to be ahead?

a couple more years of 50 avg and hundreds output.

 

[sayon basak]

Just like Barrington is not better than sobers, similarly viv is not better than Smith.

This analogy doesn't even start to make any sense.

I could say, "Just like Barrington is not better than Sobers, similarly Smith is not better than Viv".

 

[akilana]

What does Smith need to do to be ahead?

change his name to sachin

 

[sayon basak]

change his name to sachin

Ask him to play for 10 more years.

 

[DrWolverine]

80s was also bowling friendly.

A giant reason for that was the WI fast bowlers

 

[DrWolverine]

This analogy doesn't even start to make any sense.

I could say, "Just like Barrington is not better than Sobers, similarly Smith is not better than Viv".

Not even sure why Ken Barrington came to this discussion

 

[PlayerComparisons]

A giant reason for that was the WI fast bowlers

Viv potentially wouldn’t have averaged 50+ if he played for another team and had to face the WI bowlers (unless he retired earlier)

 

[DrWolverine]

Viv potentially wouldn’t have averaged 50+ if he played for another team and had to face the WI bowlers (unless he retired earlier)

At his peak I think Viv Richards could have handled the WI pacers well but post prime I suppose you are correct

 

[govinda indian fan]

I have been following smith career since his debut and have seen almost every innings of him since bgt 14/15. I would say every time smith came vs atg or potential atg he either failed or barley made few runs
Smith did well vs styen in 14 sa tour but failed horribly during 18 series similarly vs bumrah did ok in 20/21 bgt but barley made runs during 24/25 bgt averaging @32. He never dominated atg bowlers but viv has multiple atg series vs Lillee imran wasim and hadlee where he dominated then

 

[Prince EWS]

My bad.


Yes

I wanted to ask @Prince EWS is what issue he has with Viv

Everything outside his peak?

He's overrated due to people who over-value peaks, people who value strike rate / aura, and people who might have followed his career live and slightly conflated the fact that he was the best or second best ODI batsman of all time with Test exploits.

He's still an ATG and definitely in my top 20.

I don't think Viv's peak is overrated though, just over-valued. Smith's peak is massively overrated.

 

[sayon basak]

Viv potentially wouldn’t have averaged 50+ if he played for another team and had to face the WI bowlers (unless he retired earlier)

Gooch handled the WI quartet well, guess the greatest player of pace could do the same as well.

 

[centurymaker]

Just like Barrington is not better than sobers, similarly viv is not better than Smith.

Why you keep making new IDs?

 

[subshakerz]

What does Smith need to do to be ahead?

He needs to not allow a further decline from here on and have a mega series in SA against Rabada to be in that conversation.

 

[capt_Luffy]

He needs to not allow a further decline from here on and have a mega series in SA against Rabada to be in that conversation.

He doesn't. Not a big decline works very fine.

 

[Johan]

Luffy making me pray on Smith's downfall is crazy

 

[sayon basak]

Luffy making me pray on Smith's downfall is crazy

If you're praying for Smith's downfall, you're crazy.