No 1 fast bowlers in last 50 years

[Coronis]

To put it in persepctive, how hard it has been to do well for 100 away wickets and 175 over all wickets with with sub 25 avg against non-minnows. Not bothering to filter out SL pre 95 period here.

Pacers with 100 away wickets with sub 25 avg against non-minnows: Only 11 pacers

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Home and away with sub 25 avg with 175+ wickets against non-minnows: 19 pacers

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Only 10 pacers are in the both lists. It's hard despite some great bowlers making it look easy for some period. That's why I don't think it's given that Bumrah will keep picking the next 50-100 wickets cheaply and quickly.

One thing is going for him here. He can pick next 50-100 wickets at a much higher avg and still he will have career avg of 21-22. That's in the same range as the top 4-5 in history away and over all both. Not that simply avg means everything. His SR is outstanding as well, so plenty of room.

Did you do the second list to remove Roberts from the first group?

 

[Randomfan]

Did you do the second list to remove Roberts from the first group?

Away list is good enough, but wanted a longer list thinking that most bowlers have better home record than away. Including home did make the list longer but Roberts happens to drop out. I think his case is exception where he was substantialy better away than home.

It's hard to make into either list. We have 11 for away and 19 over all.

 

[DrWolverine]

Honestly I won't consider Bumrah better than Steyn, Ambrose or Imran until he gets 300+ scalps atleast at a similar record.

If he gets 300 wickets, would you consider him better?

 

[capt_Luffy]

If he gets 300 wickets, would you consider him better?

At a similar record, probably yes

 

[Daemon]

Bumrah

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

Honestly I won't consider Bumrah better than Steyn, Ambrose or Imran until he gets 300+ scalps atleast at a similar record.

If Bumrah finishes at 299 Test wickets while maintaining his present quality, I will rank him as follows:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Steyn
5. Ambrose
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Chatfield
12. Bumrah

(Chatfield, who was born on the same day of the year as Hadlee (July 3 but 1950 instead of 1951) played half the number of Tests (43) as Hadlee (86) and was integral to Hadlee's success so deserves half of Hadlee's wickets so effectively, Chatfield has > 300 Test wickets)

If Bumrah gets to 300 Test wickets, this will be the ranking (he now moves ahead of Chatfield because of slightly better quality):

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Steyn
5. Ambrose
6. Bumrah

For 301 Test wickets, it'll be:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Steyn
5. Bumrah
6. Ambrose

For 302 Test wickets:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Bumrah
5. Steyn
6. Ambrose

For 1000 Test wickets at an average of 5 runs/wicket:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Bumrah

I made a running analogy once before, and another one applies here:

Hadlee = Roger Bannister

Bumrah = "Gunder the Wonder" Hägg

 

[Randomfan]

If Bumrah finishes at 299 Test wickets while maintaining his present quality, I will rank him as follows:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Steyn
5. Ambrose
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Chatfield
12. Bumrah

(Chatfield, who was born on the same day of the year as Hadlee (July 3 but 1950 instead of 1951) played half the number of Tests (43) as Hadlee (86) and was integral to Hadlee's success so deserves half of Hadlee's wickets so effectively, Chatfield has > 300 Test wickets)

If Bumrah gets to 300 Test wickets, this will be the ranking (he now moves ahead of Chatfield because of slightly better quality):

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Steyn
5. Ambrose
6. Bumrah

For 301 Test wickets, it'll be:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Steyn
5. Bumrah
6. Ambrose

For 302 Test wickets:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Bumrah
5. Steyn
6. Ambrose

For 1000 Test wickets at an average of 5 runs/wicket:

1. Marshall
2. McGrath
3. Hadlee
4. Bumrah

I made a running analogy once before, and another one applies here:

Hadlee = Roger Bannister

Bumrah = "Gunder the Wonder" Hägg

Fantastic post. Had me rolling on the floor laughing.