Steve Smith vs Sachin Tendulkar (after 205 innings)

[Thala_0710]

I literally wanted a video this week where he said Hobbs and Sachin are 2 and 3. He was referencing his book.

So unless Sachin had a big innings in January, yeah, he's no. 3.

It was the opposite, I've seen that multiple times. He actually also said, Sachin is the only one who he can make a case for being as good as the Don due to the longevity of the greatness (which actually applies to Hobbs also but he said it for Sachin).

 

[DrWolverine]

do we count people who debuted before war but played most their Cricket post war?

I meant batsmen who debuted after war.

 

[kyear2]

Nice Viv placement, Viv is the most underrated Batsmen on Cricketweb.

Yes, yes he is. Even more so than Kallis.

PEWS and Coronis are quite proud I'm sure. Misguided, but proud.

 

[DrWolverine]

He rates him very highly. The decision between him and Gavaskar would be what approach he's looking for.

Hobbs he rates 2nd best all time behind only Bradman.

He rates Sachin and Smith equals at this moment as best since Bradman.

The decision between Gilchrist and Knott would be determined by his choice between Imran and Bumrah. If he goes Bumrah would likely go with Gilly's extra batting.

He's called Marshall very arguably the greatest seamer ever and McGrath the greatest new ball bowler.

Again, just guessing based on what he's said and the team he was building with Bumble.

But he rates Bumrah and Smith really highly.

Solid

 

[DrWolverine]

If Bumrah gets 300 wickets that's my attack as well.

Who all?

 

[govinda indian fan]

He rates him very highly. The decision between him and Gavaskar would be what approach he's looking for.

Hobbs he rates 2nd best all time behind only Bradman.

He rates Sachin and Smith equals at this moment as best since Bradman.

The decision between Gilchrist and Knott would be determined by his choice between Imran and Bumrah. If he goes Bumrah would likely go with Gilly's extra batting.

He's called Marshall very arguably the greatest seamer ever and McGrath the greatest new ball bowler.

Again, just guessing based on what he's said and the team he was building with Bumble.

But he rates Bumrah and Smith really highly.

Smith a couple of years back was unanimously rated as best after Bradman but now again same people are rating him below tendulkar. Imo how he manages his from from now to retirement would be key where he will end up. If he hits another peak he would best after bradman but if he declines would be rated below viv/ tendulkar/lara

 

[MasterBlaster24]

He rates him very highly. The decision between him and Gavaskar would be what approach he's looking for.

Hobbs he rates 2nd best all time behind only Bradman.

He rates Sachin and Smith equals at this moment as best since Bradman.

The decision between Gilchrist and Knott would be determined by his choice between Imran and Bumrah. If he goes Bumrah would likely go with Gilly's extra batting.

He's called Marshall very arguably the greatest seamer ever and McGrath the greatest new ball bowler.

Again, just guessing based on what he's said and the team he was building with Bumble.

But he rates Bumrah and Smith really highly.

He highly rates Andy flower as a wkt keeper batter.

 

[kyear2]

Smith is atg. But his average since he came from ban in 2019( when bowling era started) is below 50 while root is above 50 whom is better smith or root

I just can't rate Root, not as a batsman nor as a slip catcher.

He may end up with the numbers, but he's just not.... At least not for me.

I rate viv ahead of tendulkar and lara

Ahead of Lara for sure.

Viv and Sachin are like the perfect ying and yang.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Yes, yes he is. Even more so than Kallis.

PEWS and Coronis are quite proud I'm sure. Misguided, but proud.

Viv underated here for sure but be it peer rating and public perception viv stands head and shoulders above all

 

[Johan]

Smith is atg. But his average since he came from ban in 2019( when bowling era started) is below 50 while root is above 50 whom is better smith or root

It is interesting to me how Root averages higher or equal against every opponent bar each other's teams and windies (and Root has played a better windies, with Dukes), perhaps Smith is not as dominant on this generation as people often presume.

 

[kyear2]

I have Tendulkar ahead by the barest of margins, to me they're about as close as two Batsmen can be without being equal.

Yeah.

 

[DrWolverine]

He highly rates Andy flower as a wkt keeper batter.

Flower played at number 5. Not sure if anyone will pick him over Sobers, Viv or Smith.

 

[kyear2]

No Sachin infact did. And infact has clearly better results over the mentioned period. You were the one to brought how much tougher the 82-88 period was.

It was definitely tougher with regards to conditions and bowling.

 

[kyear2]

True.

True

Didn't deny it.

 

[capt_Luffy]

It was definitely tougher with regards to conditions and bowling.

Didn't we just talk about how the majority attacks weren't really strong?? None atleast close to what SA was in that period.

 

[govinda indian fan]

I just can't rate Root, not as a batsman nor as a slip catcher.

He may end up with the numbers, but he's just not.... At least not for me.



Ahead of Lara for sure.

Viv and Sachin are like the perfect ying and yang.

But root has been far more consistent since 2018 which is when conditions became bowler Friendly. He might not have atg tours like smith in india 17 and england 19 but is far more consistent. Only thing he lacks is good series in Australia which impacts legacy of his whole career becuase you know how much importance english public give to ashes

 

[kyear2]

Mount Rushmore of post war batsmen
Sobers
Viv
Sachin
Smith

As much as I would want to slip Lara in on a split screen with Tendulkar, if it's just 4, can't argue with this, well not strenuously.

 

[DrWolverine]

As much as I would want to slip Lara in on a split screen with Tendulkar, if it's just 4, can't argue with this, well not strenuously.

As a Lara fan, I would love to have him in Top 4 but I am not really having any argument against Smith tbh

 

[Narayana]

One of reason i rate sachin/lara ahead of punter/kallis/dravid/sanga is that they averaged 50 in 90s which was rare given quality of bowling back then. Post war top 5 imo
Don
Sobers
Viv
Sachin/Lara
Lara/sachin

Smith is atg. But his average since he came from ban in 2019( when bowling era started) is below 50 while root is above 50 whom is better smith or root

49.88 , it will be 50+ in the next match.

 

[Johan]

I just can't rate Root, not as a batsman nor as a slip catcher.

He may end up with the numbers, but he's just not.... At least not for me.

Really? Root feels like someone who checks all the boxes for your rating personally, dominant when on top, very capable on tough wickets and has been the best Batsmen in the world by a country mile for quite some time now