Steve Smith vs Sachin Tendulkar (after 205 innings)

[Johan]

One of reason i rate sachin/lara ahead of punter/kallis/dravid/sanga is that they averaged 50 in 90s which was rare given quality of bowling back then. Post war top 5 imo
Don
Sobers
Viv
Sachin/Lara
Lara/sachin

Nice Viv placement, Viv is the most underrated Batsmen on Cricketweb.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Smith is atg. But his average since he came from ban in 2019( when bowling era started) is below 50 while root is above 50 whom is better smith or root

 

[govinda indian fan]

Nice Viv placement, Viv is the most underrated Batsmen on Cricketweb.

I rate viv ahead of tendulkar and lara

 

[Johan]

I rate viv ahead of tendulkar and lara

I have Tendulkar ahead by the barest of margins, to me they're about as close as two Batsmen can be without being equal.

 

[capt_Luffy]

We referenced 82 to 88, he faced Willis during that time. What's your point?

So England and India wasn't great, Sachin didn't face any poor attacks, and on said flat pitches?

No Sachin infact did. And infact has clearly better results over the mentioned period. You were the one to brought how much tougher the 82-88 period was.

 

[govinda indian fan]

@Johan mate i wasnt rating sobers ahead of viv. Was just placing them according to their respectvie eras. Sobers 60s viv 70s and 80s sachin /Lara 90s

 

[kyear2]

How many all time great bowlers did Viv face in 1980s? Hadlee? Imran? Who else? Lillee at the end of his career?

Any question you ask for Viv, present the opposing response for Sachin.

 

[DrWolverine]

Personally don't see that's there's much to separate the likes of Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers and Hobbs, the only argument I make against Hobbs is era.

True.

True

 

[Johan]

@Johan mate i wasnt rating sobers ahead of viv. Was just placing them according to their respectvie eras. Sobers 60s viv 70s and 80s sachin /Lara 90s

Oh, I see

 

[Johan]

again, if era arguments are to be made, Zak Crawley > Sunil Gavaskar.

 

[DrWolverine]

Mount Rushmore of post war batsmen
Sobers
Viv
Sachin
Smith

 

[Johan]

again, if era arguments are to be made, Zak Crawley > Sunil Gavaskar.

Crawley winning etc

Zak Crawley vs Sunil Gavaskar

as understood by the great folk of this site, 30s is incomparable to 70s Cricket due to standards of sports raising, which is a fair argument considering rise in fitness, sports science and yada yada Because it's sort of understood there is more parity and standardization between 70s to now...

www.cricketweb.net

 

[Johan]

Mount Rushmore of post war batsmen
Sobers
Viv
Sachin
Smith

do we count people who debuted before war but played most their Cricket post war?

 

[kyear2]

Even he likes your favourite Richards?
Great team though

He rates him very highly. The decision between him and Gavaskar would be what approach he's looking for.

Hobbs he rates 2nd best all time behind only Bradman.

He rates Sachin and Smith equals at this moment as best since Bradman.

The decision between Gilchrist and Knott would be determined by his choice between Imran and Bumrah. If he goes Bumrah would likely go with Gilly's extra batting.

He's called Marshall very arguably the greatest seamer ever and McGrath the greatest new ball bowler.

Again, just guessing based on what he's said and the team he was building with Bumble.

But he rates Bumrah and Smith really highly.

 

[kyear2]

One of reason i rate sachin/lara ahead of punter/kallis/dravid/sanga is that they averaged 50 in 90s which was rare given quality of bowling back then. Post war top 5 imo
Don
Sobers
Viv
Sachin/Lara
Lara/sachin

Yeah, that's why everyone rates Tendulkar and Lara above the other 4.

 

[Thala_0710]

Hobbs he rates 2nd best all time behind only Bradman.

Actually he rates Sachin at 2.

 

[kyear2]

Think he would replace Marshall or McGrath with Bumrah eventually.

I've explained that in another post.

He speaks highly of Bumrah with the older ball and reverse swing etc. that's why I would imagine that he would have him in addition to the other 2.

He has already said in a direct comparison he would go with McGrath as he's more vital at the top of the innings.

If Bumrah gets 300 wickets that's my attack as well.

 

[govinda indian fan]

do we count people who debuted before war but played most their Cricket post war?

Post war is what he means

 

[kyear2]

Actually he rates Sachin at 2.

I literally wanted a video this week where he said Hobbs and Sachin are 2 and 3. He was referencing his book.

So unless Sachin had a big innings in January, yeah, he's no. 3.

 

[Johan]

He rates him very highly. The decision between him and Gavaskar would be what approach he's looking for.

Hobbs he rates 2nd best all time behind only Bradman.

He rates Sachin and Smith equals at this moment as best since Bradman.

The decision between Gilchrist and Knott would be determined by his choice between Imran and Bumrah. If he goes Bumrah would likely go with Gilly's extra batting.

He's called Marshall very arguably the greatest seamer ever and McGrath the greatest new ball bowler.

Again, just guessing based on what he's said and the team he was building with Bumble.

But he rates Bumrah and Smith really highly.

does he rate Viv?