Viv Richards vs Gary sobers

[Johan]

Modern era ATG bats for me

Tendulkar
Viv
Lara
Smith
Gavaskar
maybe Border/Waugh? tough to rate them
Root/Punter/Jack/Chappell, basically any order works
Sanga
Rahul

Pacers

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran
Lillee
Garner
Donald
Akram
Holding
Walsh

Spinners

Warne
Muralitharan

WKs

Gilchrist
Knott maybe?

all in order

 

[Thala_0710]

Modern era ATG bats for me

Tendulkar
Viv
Lara
Smith
Gavaskar
maybe Border/Waugh? tough to rate them
Root/Punter/Jack/Chappell, basically any order works
Sanga
Rahul

Pacers

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran
Lillee
Garner
Donald
Akram
Holding
Walsh

Spinners

Warne
Muralitharan

WKs

Gilchrist
Knott maybe?

all in order

ARs?

 

[Johan]

ARs?

ARs would be Botham, Pollock, Kapil and maybe Jadeja but we'll see if he declines.

 

[Coronis]

ARs would be Botham, Pollock, Kapil and maybe Jadeja but we'll see if he declines.

So is Kallis what. an almost ATG bat and an almost ATG allrounder rolled into one for you?

 

[Johan]

So is Kallis what. an almost ATG bat and an almost ATG allrounder rolled into one for you?

He was in the ATG bats list

Root/Punter/Jack/Chappell, basically any order works

 

[Coronis]

He was in the ATG bats list

Root/Punter/Jack/Chappell, basically any order works

Sorry when you had maybe I understood that as maybe they’re ATGs, maybe not

 

[DrWolverine]

Root, Waqar, Walsh, Kapil, and Sangakkara as a wk.

Walsh. Maybe
Sanga as a batsman is okay.
Sanga as a wk batsman isn’t

 

[Johan]

Sorry when you had maybe I understood that as maybe they’re ATGs, maybe not

oh that's just for Border and Waugh, whom I find hard to place personally

 

[sayon basak]

Walsh. Maybe
Sanga as a batsman is okay.
Sanga as a wk batsman isn’t

By WK, he means WK-bat ig.

(And he was a better wicket keeper than Flower)

 

[Thala_0710]

By WK, he means WK-bat ig.

Yes, similar to Gilly

 

[DrWolverine]

By WK, he means WK-bat ig.

Sanga’s record as a wk bat isn’t that good.
3117 runs @ 40.

(Flower : 4400 runs @ 53.7)

 

[sayon basak]

Sanga’s record as a wk bat isn’t that good.
3117 runs @ 40.

(Flower : 4400 runs @ 53.7)

But was a worse keeper.

 

[DrWolverine]

Modern era ATG bats for me

Tendulkar
Viv
Lara
Smith
Gavaskar
maybe Border/Waugh? tough to rate them
Root/Punter/Jack/Chappell, basically any order works
Sanga
Rahul

Pacers

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran
Lillee
Garner
Donald
Akram
Holding
Walsh

Spinners

Warne
Muralitharan

WKs

Gilchrist
Knott maybe?

all in order

Since when? 1970?

 

[Johan]

Since when? 1970?

Yeah.

 

[DrWolverine]

Yeah.

Like your list

May not agree with order for some names. But great list

 

[subshakerz]

Since 1970:

Bats:
Chappell
Viv
Sunny
Border
Tendulkar
Lara
Waugh
Ponting
Smith

Pace Bowlers:
Lillee
Hadlee
Imran
Marshall
Ambrose
Wasim
Donald
McGrath
Steyn

Spinners:
Warne
Murali

Keepers:
Knott
Gilly

ARs:
Imran
Kallis
Botham

 

[Coronis]

Walsh. Maybe
Sanga as a batsman is okay.
Sanga as a wk batsman isn’t

imo, Gilly is the only ATG keeper bat.

He was the only one to combine great keeping and great batting.

Flower was obviously a great batsman but a pretty poor keeper. Sanga was a great keeper and a great batsman, but seperately.

You could argue AB, but tbh I don’t remember much about his keeping, though he was in great batting form at that point.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Since 1970:

Bats:
Chappell
Viv
Sunny
Border
Tendulkar
Lara
Waugh
Ponting
Smith

Pace Bowlers:
Lillee
Hadlee
Imran
Marshall
Ambrose
Wasim
Donald
McGrath
Steyn

Spinners:
Warne
Murali

Keepers:
Knott
Gilly

ARs:
Imran
Kallis
Botham

Hope bumrah and Cummins join your list soon

 

[subshakerz]

Hope bumrah and Cummins join your list soon

Me too. They need 300 wickets to qualify for me

 

[capt_Luffy]

oh that's just for Border and Waugh, whom I find hard to place personally

If @Burgey read this, you are deadmeat.....