McGrath, Lee, Gillespie vs starc, Hazlewood, Cummins?

[subshakerz]

Second attack allowed India to block and chase for a series victory. Disqualified.

 

[trundler]

They're equal at home but McGrath and Gillespie were better Cummins Hazlewood away. Lee and Starc cancel out.

 

[Coronis]

Wiser thing is to wait till the current trio finish up who knows Cummins will get closer to McGrath by then. Its also worth pointing out that McGrath/Gillespie/Lee didn't form a full attack all that often. Think they played together vs SA home and away back in 02 and then the WI tour the year later. Don't think they played together again till 05 ashes when Lee returned to the side but Gillespie dropped out midway through that series. Best working attacks aus had at that period included Kasprowicz in Lees expense

Current trio has been bowling together since 17/18

McGrath/Gillespie/Lee played together in 22 tests from 2000-2005, taking 243 @ 28.47. Warne played in 16 of them. (MacGill played in all the matches Warne missed)
Cummins/Hazlewood/Starc have played together in 34 tests from 2017-2024, taking 415 @ 25.47. Lyon has played in 32 of them. (missed the two Ashes matches, Murphy played in one and Australia used both Green and Marsh in the other)

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Jimmy Anderson is the one who exposed kohli's weakness during 2014 tours.

No. Kohli did superbly during the 2010s after that tour and was ATG level for 5 years.
After KJ rolled Kohli he has averaged 30.

 

[Coronis]

They're equal at home but McGrath and Gillespie were better Cummins Hazlewood away. Lee and Starc cancel out.

Fun fact, though the new trio have played together far more often, they’ve only played 10 matches together away compared to 13 for the old trio.

Gillespie was also even worse than Lee when bowling away with this group.

McGrath swings it massively tho. (ironic huh)

 

[Narayana]

Fun fact, though the new trio have played together far more often, they’ve only played 10 matches together away compared to 13 for the old trio.

Gillespie was also even worse than Lee when bowling away with this group.

McGrath swings it massively tho. (ironic huh)

One of the main reason is their batting was really poor during Smith captaincy, in away matches only Warner and Smith were the ones who consistently scored.
Smith Averaged 66 away (2014-2019) , Warner 35.

 

[Coronis]

One of the main reason is their batting was really poor during Smith captaincy, in away matches only Warner and Smith were the ones who consistently scored.
Smith Averaged 66 away (2014-2019) , Warner 35.

What does that have to do with Gillespie’s bowling away? Or that they have played fewer matches together away?

 

[Narayana]

What does that have to do with Gillespie’s bowling away? Or that they have played fewer matches together away?

Well current trio didn't played many matches away though apart from ashes?

 

[Coronis]

Well current trio didn't played many matches away though apart from ashes?

Again, what does that have to do with Smith or Warner’s batting?

 

[Narayana]

Again, what does that have to do with Smith or Warner’s batting?

If batters don't score enough , bowler can't perform confidently,

 

[Coronis]

If batters don't score enough , bowler can't perform confidently,

That has nothing to do with the amount of matches they play…

 

[Narayana]

Again, what does that have to do with Smith or Warner’s batting?

Whenever Smith scores a century in away conditions, mostly aus wons,
Since 2015. Aus only won 6 matches in england in which Steve Smith has won 5 mots.

 

[Coronis]

Whenever Smith scores a century in away conditions, mostly aus wons,
Since 2015. Aus only won 6 matches in england in which Steve Smith has won 5 mots.

Again this has absolutely nothing to do with all 3 bowlers being selected.

Seriously.

 

[Narayana]

Again this has absolutely nothing to do with all 3 bowlers being selected.

Seriously.

Gillespie lee vs Hazlewood.

 

[Gob]

McGrath/Gillespie/Lee played together in 22 tests from 2000-2005, taking 243 @ 28.47. Warne played in 16 of them. (MacGill played in all the matches Warne missed)
Cummins/Hazlewood/Starc have played together in 34 tests from 2017-2024, taking 415 @ 25.47. Lyon has played in 32 of them. (missed the two Ashes matches, Murphy played in one and Australia used both Green and Marsh in the other)

Huh thought it would be a lot less than that

 

[sayon basak]

No. Kohli did superbly during the 2010s after that tour and was ATG level for 5 years.
After KJ rolled Kohli he has averaged 30.

It was actually Ebadot.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

No. Kohli did superbly during the 2010s after that tour and was ATG level for 5 years.
After KJ rolled Kohli he has averaged 30.

Yea Kohlis never been the same since Jamieson sorted him out