England Lions Tour of Australia and England U19 Tour of South Africa

[mackembhoy]

In a non FC tour match(why they can't just make them FC I will never know as they end up just glorified net sessions)

CAXI have had a Bannerman like performance from Lachlan Hearne at stumps he's 106* from 62 balls, with his side 176/9.

This is in response to England Lions all out effort of 223 after they won toss and chose to bat.

CAXI vs LIONS Cricket Scorecard, Tour match at Brisbane, January 14 - 17, 2025

England U19 vs WP U19 was a no result

WP chose to bat and made 243/6 from 45.2 before the rain came.

WP19 vs ENG19 Cricket Scorecard, Warm-up at Cape Town, January 14, 2025

 

[SeamUp]

It was actually WP academy team in the end so quite a few older players but none with FC experience. The Curran's cousin (Kai) being one.

Pity about the weather. Hopefully that's all the rain used up ahead of the series as Dec/Jan/Feb rain in CT is rare.

 

[mackembhoy]

Comfortable win for the CAXI side.

Mind considering England had two players half the age of an Aussie that took 6/20 wickets.

Somewhat expected, when lot of the Aussies been playing Shield Cricket.

A good workout to start their tour. Albeit only Davies and McKinney came away with any credit with the bat.

Davies seems to have been rewarded for weight of runs/experience as he was the only batsman over the age of 21!

 

[kevinw]

Comfortable win for the CAXI side.

Mind considering England had two players half the age of an Aussie that took 6/20 wickets.

Somewhat expected, when lot of the Aussies been playing Shield Cricket.

A good workout to start their tour. Albeit only Davies and McKinney came away with any credit with the bat.

Davies seems to have been rewarded for weight of runs/experience as he was the only batsman over the age of 21!

I assume the squad has been put together mainly due to who's not playing franchise cricket. Given the number of tournaments in play at the moment, anyone vaguely near the national setup is unavailable.

 

[mackembhoy]

I assume the squad has been put together mainly due to who's not playing franchise cricket. Given the number of tournaments in play at the moment, anyone vaguely near the national setup is unavailable.

I think it's better to look at the age of players they have.

I'm not sure who I'd have selected that they haven't. Below is everyone in T20 tournaments this month from England.

Matty Hurst probably the only one from a red ball perspective I think missing.

Especially when Bashir getting a chance to bowl in Aus prior to the Ashes. Puts him ahead of any other spinner they could have selected instead.

SA20

Durban Super Giants: Chris Woakes
Joburg Super Kings: Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow
MI Cape Town: Chris Benjamin
Paarl Royals: Joe Root, Sam Hain
Pretoria Capitals: Will Jacks, Liam Livingstone, Will Smeed
Sunrisers Eastern Cape: Zak Crawley, Liam Dawson, Craig Overton, Tom Abell, Richard Gleeson

BBL

Adelaide Strikers: Ollie Pope, Jamie Overton
Brisbane Heat: Paul Walter, Tom Alsop
Hobart Hurricanes: Chris Jordan
Melbourne Renegades: Jacob Bethell Laurie Evans
Melbourne Stars: Ben Duckett Joe Clarke Tom Curran
Perth Scorchers: Keaton Jennings , Matty Hurst
Sydney Sixers: Jafer Chohan , James Vince
Sydney Thunder: Sam Billings

ILT20

Abu Dhabi Knight Riders: Phil Salt, David Willey, Joe Clarke, Laurie Evans & Michael Pepper
Desert Vipers: Sam Curran, Dan Lawrence, David Payne, Max Holden, Adam Hose, Alex Hales, Luke Wood & Nathan Sowter
Dubai Capitals: Olly Stone, Sam Billings, Adam Rossington & Joe Weatherley
Gulf Giants: Chris Jordan, Jordon Cox, Rehan Ahmed, James Vince, Tymal Mills, Tom Curran, Ollie Robinson (batter) & Adam Lyth
MI Emirates: Dan Mousley, Tom Banton, Jordan Thompson & Ben Charlesworth
Sharjah Warriorz: Adil Rashid, Jason Roy, Tom Kohler-Cadmore & Luke Wells

 

[Blenkinsop]

Were these T20 contracts arranged after before or after the Lions squad was announced, though?

I can definitely think of a few players who should have been on the Lions tour and aren't. Assuming they're fit I think Emilio Gay, Matt Fisher and Tom Haines should have gone for example.

 

[mackembhoy]

Were these T20 contracts arranged after before or after the Lions squad was announced, though?

I can definitely think of a few players who should have been on the Lions tour and aren't. Assuming they're fit I think Emilio Gay, Matt Fisher and Tom Haines should have gone for example.

Gay despite signing for Durham I don't think is guaranteed a place as the man in the Lions will be opening alongside the captain Lees.

Him and Rhodes will be battling out for the number 3 slot.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Sam Cook bowled well and was probably underbowled too. Strange he’s not at T20 stuff as he usually gets signed. Maybe he’s still prioritising trying to get an England cap.

 

[kevinw]

Were these T20 contracts arranged after before or after the Lions squad was announced, though?

I can definitely think of a few players who should have been on the Lions tour and aren't. Assuming they're fit I think Emilio Gay, Matt Fisher and Tom Haines should have gone for example.

Haines should definitely be on the selectors' radar. Josh Bohannon still has an excellent FC record. Tom Prest has potential. Jack Carson should be rivalling for Bashir's spot. Heck, I'd even like to see Bess come back into form. Ben Coad is the English Bumrah. Jamie Porter consistently brilliant, of course. I'd rather have these guys in Australia over some random u19-ers.

 

[SeamUp]

If any of you guys want to catch some U19 action at work. By all accounts spin should play a role & you guys have 3 with FC experience.

South Africa U19 vs England U19 - 1st Youth ODI

Live from Wally Wilson - WPCC, Cape TownLive scorecard: https://cricketpvcms.co.za/score#wozanawe #livecricketmatchtoday #bepartofit @officialenglandcricket

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[SeamUp]

Minto looks quality. Looks like he bowls within himself. Great away shape from the leftie.

 

[Molehill]

If any of you guys want to catch some U19 action at work. By all accounts spin should play a role & you guys have 3 with FC experience.

South Africa U19 vs England U19 - 1st Youth ODI

Live from Wally Wilson - WPCC, Cape TownLive scorecard: https://cricketpvcms.co.za/score#wozanawe #livecricketmatchtoday #bepartofit @officialenglandcricket

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Thanks for this, will dip in and out of it seeing as Crapinfo aren't covering it.

 

[SeamUp]

Thanks for this, will dip in and out of it seeing as Crapinfo aren't covering it.

Pleasure.

This Harry Moore doesn't look half bad either. About 7 foot.

 

[SeamUp]

Men against boys here so far. A lot of our guys are making their U19 debut but still.

 

[Molehill]

I don't think there's a whole lot between this U19's side and the Lions team in Aus.

 

[SeamUp]

I don't think there's a whole lot between this U19's side and the Lions team in Aus.

Vaughan, Ahmed, Ali, Moore, Minto look to be 'The talents'. Any others close to those?

 

[Molehill]

Vaughan, Ahmed, Ali, Moore, Minto look to be 'The talents'. Any others close to those?

Hard to know as the others haven't played County yet, although I notice that Sawant has racked up some big runs for Middlesex 2's so could be one to watch too.

This looks like it's ending quite quickly.

 

[mackembhoy]

Vaughan, Ahmed, Ali, Moore, Minto look to be 'The talents'. Any others close to those?

The Lions has 3 guys still eligible for the U19s in Freddie McCann(19), Hamza Shaikh(18) and Rocky Flintoff(16).

Ben McKinney who only turned 20 in October too is another talented player in the Lions.

Luc Benkenstein(dales son was a talent for the U19s too not long 20 himself. Thomas Rew who's in the side for the U19 supposed to be as good as his brother James(only 21 himself).

Glad to hear James Minto has looked good again. He definitely showed his talent for Durham last season in the chances he got.

He bowled like he was far more experienced than the 16 years of age he was.

I'm definitely excited for England future as most of the people we've talked about here have already played plenty of FC cricket. So the sky is the limit for them, at such young ages.

I don't think during my time watching cricket there has been such a swathe of young talent making their mark in County Cricket.

You could pretty much get a side out of under 21 players. Albeit balance wrong with only 2 seamers and 4 spinners!

Eddie Jack another seamer at 19 I forgot to mention perhaps instead of Ali

Vaughan
McKinney
McCann
Shaikh
Benkenstein
Flintoff
Rew
Minto
Moore
Ahmed
Ali

 

[mackembhoy]

Pat Brown with 5/21 and Cook 2/31 the pick of the bowlers as they dismiss CAXI for 214.

Doesn't look the best of returns for Tongue and Bashir as the only previous test apperances in the squad.

Lions 64/1 at Stumps with McKinney dismissed for a fluent 32.

 

[Molehill]

Men against boys here so far. A lot of our guys are making their U19 debut but still.

SA won the 2nd ODI and England currently batting in the 3rd are 116-4 in the 29th over.

Just quickly flicked onto it and looks tough scoring against spinners.

South Africa U19 vs England U19 - 3rd Youth ODI