McGrath, Lee, Gillespie vs starc, Hazlewood, Cummins?

[Narayana]

depends, there is the 1990-1994 Waqar that was genuinely godly, and then there was 1995-2003 Waqar after injuries who was Mohammad Shami level or worse.

Top 5 test bowler for you?

 

[Johan]

Top 5 test bowler for you?

1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Richard Hadlee
4. Sydney Barnes
5. Curtly Ambrose

 

[Narayana]

1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Richard Hadlee
4. Sydney Barnes
5. Curtly Ambrose

Where is Dale Steyn?

 

[Johan]

Where is Dale Steyn?

6. Dale Steyn
7. Shane Warne
8. Imran Khan
9. Muttiah Muralitharan
10. Bill O Reilly

 

[Rob Wesley]

Yeah think Lee is better with the red ball, almost the same numbers while bowling in a way tougher era against (imp) better batters.

What are Cummins and Hazelwood stats with pink ball? If they have not done that well with pink ball, Starc deserves a bit of credit for destroying teams with pink ball.

 

[Rob Wesley]

6. Dale Steyn
7. Shane Warne
8. Imran Khan
9. Muttiah Muralitharan
10. Bill O Reilly

Where is Wasim Akram, Joel garnered, Michael holding, Chaminda bass and Danny Morrison?

 

[Johan]

What are Cummins and Hazelwood stats with pink ball? If they have not done that well with pink ball, Starc deserves a bit of credit for destroying teams with pink ball.

as of Windies series so not including BGT 2024

 

[Johan]

Where is Wasim Akram, Joel garnered, Michael holding, Chaminda bass and Danny Morrison?

Wasim is at 13 I think, Garner right after at 14, Holding somewhere in top 20, Vaas in top 100 and Morrison is a pervert.

 

[Coronis]

Where is Dale Steyn?

Probably South Africa

 

[govinda indian fan]

Bazball did nothing, an ATG bat in Joe Root and a dude going through the purple patch of his life in Johnny Bairstow did it, iirc in that match Bumrah in first inning reduced England to 44-3 and took 3 wickets, and then in second inning he also had taken two wkts, Root and Johnny Bairstow just got going and Bumrah got taken apart. Remember, just few months ago Jayden Seales and Asitha Fernando found success in England.

Bairstow was dropped by hanuma vihari when he was on 35. Had he taken that catch we would have had series win

 

[PlayerComparisons]

McGrath

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Disagree with the take on Hazlewood.
He is following the McGrath footsteps.
McGrath after 272 wickets was Averaging 22.7
Hazlewood now averaging 24.5 ,
He is the 2nd best bowler of WTC history after bumrah.
In WTC history
2nd best economy 2.76 after Anderson (2.61)
3rd best strike rates 45 after bumrahs 39 and rabada's 41.
2nd best 20.3 average after bumrahs 19.

Kyle Jamieson is the best (or 2nd best) bowler in WTC history
Economy 2.65
Strike rate 43
Average 19.03
Motm inaugural WTC final
Found out how to conquer Kohli so other bowlers copied

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Anyway, this should be greater, not greatest.

Aus in the late 40s/early 50s had better pace attacks

 

[sayon basak]

6. Dale Steyn
7. Shane Warne
8. Imran Khan
9. Muttiah Muralitharan
10. Bill O Reilly

At least you have the spinners in the top ten. God bless you.

 

[sayon basak]

Where is Wasim Akram, Joel garnered, Michael holding, Chaminda bass and Danny Morrison?

They are in his batting list.

 

[Coronis]

Anyway, this should be greater, not greatest.

Aus in the late 40s/early 50s had better pace attacks

Imagine too if Davidson had been in his prime at the same time as the others. Would have been insane.

 

[Line and Length]

I wonder why he didn't include Warne and Lyon...

That was my initial thought. However, the voting would have been even more one-sided with their inclusion.

 

[Narayana]

Kyle Jamieson is the best (or 2nd best) bowler in WTC history
Economy 2.65
Strike rate 43
Average 19.03
Motm inaugural WTC final
Found out how to conquer Kohli so other bowlers copied

Jimmy Anderson is the one who exposed kohli's weakness during 2014 tours.

 

[Randomfan]

Include Warne/Lyon, it becomes one sided.

Without them, I will go marginally with McGrath, Gillespie and Lee.

Mcgrath tilted it for me.

 

[Gob]

Wiser thing is to wait till the current trio finish up who knows Cummins will get closer to McGrath by then. Its also worth pointing out that McGrath/Gillespie/Lee didn't form a full attack all that often. Think they played together vs SA home and away back in 02 and then the WI tour the year later. Don't think they played together again till 05 ashes when Lee returned to the side but Gillespie dropped out midway through that series. Best working attacks aus had at that period included Kasprowicz in Lees expense

Current trio has been bowling together since 17/18