wellAlbidarned
International Coach
I notice the Black Clash is on the TAB - I had assumed it was rigged (not making a joke at Vincent's expense, just from watching replays of the previous ones)?
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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Preach. Love the Louicious, hope he smokes it
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Did they bring out Cairnsy as well
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lou Vincent using the old Mongoose-sized bat is a bit of blast-from-the-past.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
plot twist: Gayle doesn't realise this is a joke charity game, just thinks the quality of T20 leagues is getting out of hand
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Leon MacDonald’s still a fierce competitor and shows that he could easily have played FC cricket and not just Hawke Cup.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
21st century test XI? Saw a Facebook post by a random cricket page which had gold comments like "Richardson? He bats so slowly, where's Guptill??"
Anyways, it did actually get me thinking things like:
Does McCullum deserve a spot? Overall your say yes and batting 5 at that, but then does that mean he's ahead of Fleming? Or should he open instead of Latham? Do you include Oram as an all-rounder - or Cairns even - or make room for McCullum by having 4 bowlers. Or do you "cheat" and have him as WK?
My gut says:
Richardson
Latham
Williamson
Taylor
Fleming*
McCullum
Watling+
Vettori
Wagner
Boult
Southee
But it does feel bowler light. You could make a case for Oram or de Grandhomme over McCullum in the counter attacking, aggressive lower order role + seam bowling options. Or leave Fleming out for McCullum and include an all rounder instead. Or even a 4th seamer, like Bond, Henry or Jamieson with Vettori at 7 as the AR.
Anyways, it did actually get me thinking things like:
Does McCullum deserve a spot? Overall your say yes and batting 5 at that, but then does that mean he's ahead of Fleming? Or should he open instead of Latham? Do you include Oram as an all-rounder - or Cairns even - or make room for McCullum by having 4 bowlers. Or do you "cheat" and have him as WK?
My gut says:
Richardson
Latham
Williamson
Taylor
Fleming*
McCullum
Watling+
Vettori
Wagner
Boult
Southee
But it does feel bowler light. You could make a case for Oram or de Grandhomme over McCullum in the counter attacking, aggressive lower order role + seam bowling options. Or leave Fleming out for McCullum and include an all rounder instead. Or even a 4th seamer, like Bond, Henry or Jamieson with Vettori at 7 as the AR.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah this needs an allrounder, especially at home.
I'd probably open with McCullum to make it happen, and I think Colin > Oram. I can't be bothered checking to see how much Cairns qualifies but I'm thinking he was mostly too early.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Athlai
Not Terrible
Cairns has as many runs as Jesse Ryder from less innings in the 2000s. Think he very easily makes the starting XI. I'm perfectly happy to overlook him for being such a tainted character these days but by pure talent he is right up there our very best that aren't named Kane Willliamson.
Athlai
Not Terrible
1st XI
McCullum
Richardson
Williamson
Taylor
Fleming
Cairns
Watling
Vettori
Southee
Bond
Boult
2nd XI
Latham
Conway
Styris
Mitchell
McMillan
de Grandhomme
Blundell
Santner
Jamieson
Wagner
Henry
3rd XI
Raval
Guptill
Ryder
Astle
Ravindra
Oram
Parore
Franklin
Tuffey
Ajaz
Martin
Sinclair not found
Best batsman not picked - Nicholls
Best bowler not picked - O'Rourke/Mlils/O'Brien
McCullum
Richardson
Williamson
Taylor
Fleming
Cairns
Watling
Vettori
Southee
Bond
Boult
2nd XI
Latham
Conway
Styris
Mitchell
McMillan
de Grandhomme
Blundell
Santner
Jamieson
Wagner
Henry
3rd XI
Raval
Guptill
Ryder
Astle
Ravindra
Oram
Parore
Franklin
Tuffey
Ajaz
Martin
Sinclair not found
Best batsman not picked - Nicholls
Best bowler not picked - O'Rourke/Mlils/O'Brien
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Incredible we won that match given Richardson's 26 off 71 (though tbf Baz scored slower).
I probably would've watched it live, but wonder if the pitch had demons in it that I don't recall as both sides looked to have struggled with the bat (pace and carry looking at that clip).
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Interesting sides! Not much I disagree with. Ajaz over Santner in the 2nd xi for mine. I know Santner really has turned a corner in the last 12 months but still. In fact, I'd potentially have Patel over him in the 3rd XI, though might include Santner as an bowling AR instead of Franklin with the presence of Oram, and considering Franklins overall career, not just his beginning. O'Brien over Tuffey too.
Athlai
Not Terrible
It's me though
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Which was why I was surprised by the lack of j33ts