Prince EWS
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It's a bit of both, and I think the latter is also partially caused by the former.
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**Official** 5th Test at Sydney, 3-7 Jan 2025
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subshakerz
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India obviously would be pleased by this session and credit to Bumrah for keeping his rhythm all through five tests even with added captaincy pressure.
Big test for secondary bowlers now.
Big test for secondary bowlers now.
Daemon
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I’d happily take that.
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Lots of bad pitches and poor techniques
flibbertyjibber
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Like over here, no decent spinners coming through so everyone prepares pitches to suit medium wobblers, then complain we have no test class spinners...
flibbertyjibber
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Techniques the world over have got worse due to more emphasis on T20. Look at Bairstow, one of the worst techniques going and he played 100 tests.
Now we have Duckett and Konstas pretending it's a T20 in the first hour of a test match.
subshakerz
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India in this test have felt like a batsman short and a paceman short.
Spark
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The frustrating thing is that there are some young players who look good technically - not so much Konstas, but that's unrelated to the way he's batted this series - but most of them are just shotless wonders. The young guys who can bat normally at a decent tempo are the truly missing species in Shield batting right now. Even McSweeney who is probably the best young batsman in Australia still has some technical weaknesses and can be a bit shotless at times.
subshakerz
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I didn't think before this series Smith would be so critical to the team chances. But here we are.
Prince EWS
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McSweeney's only 25 and I don't think he's been cast aside forever.
Beyond that there's Ollie Davies but he's having quite a poor season so far after being moved into the top 4, which is a bad sign. Jayden Goodwin (son of Murray) is only in his only 20s and he's having a good start to the season but when I'm mentioning someone who averages low 30s the cupboard is pretty bare.
SillyCowCorner1
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Yep, there’s a certain Kohli who satisfies both areas
Prince EWS
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Yeah Goodwin and Kellaway spring to mind here.
subshakerz
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Bumrah off the field?
Spark
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Yeah if you like at the Aus A side and cut out the >30yos you're left with Konstas, McSweeney, Davies and Connolly. All talented players, but all of them come with downside.
Prince EWS
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He's off to have a bowl in the nets while the others have a trundle in the middle.
Spark
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I really thing Kellaway in particular has been hampered badly by just not being able to bat at a decent tempo. So many 100-ball 25s from him
silentstriker
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Australia opening up a big betting lead again.
flibbertyjibber
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So Hameeds in comparison for us.
Our batting is woefully lacking depth as Pope and Crawley look secure yet rarely produce.
The sad thing is because England have had relative success with silly cricket and picking rookie unknowns others will try the same to the detriment of the domestic game worldwide.
