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Sunil Gavaskar vs Wally Hammond

Who was the greater test batsman?

  • Sunil Gavaskar

    Votes: 17 47.2%

  • Wally Hammond

    Votes: 19 52.8%
  • Total voters
    36
Johan

Johan

International Regular
@capt_Luffy 835 runs in 20 innings, 46.3 average, 4 hundreds.

Voce was around for a lot of it too, might've missed a game or two and some of the bad games are early from his career in 1925 on a literal horror pitch (150 wasn't crossed once), removing those and going 1926 forward when both players had matured

773 runs in 16 innings, 55.21 average and 4 hundreds.

might've missed a game or two here and there.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Johan said:
@capt_Luffy 835 runs in 20 innings, 46.3 average, 4 hundreds.

Voce was around for a lot of it too, might've missed a game or two and some of the bad games are early from his career in 1925 on a literal horror pitch (150 wasn't crossed once), removing those and going 1926 forward when both players had matured

773 runs in 16 innings, 55.21 average and 4 hundreds.

might've missed a game or two here and there.
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I don't think removing games completely is the way to go, nevertheless that's a pretty
Great record.
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

International 12th Man
Prince EWS said:
If Mark Waugh was banned from Test cricket after seven Tests then most people would definitely call him at ATG and most people would be sure of his stature, and they'd say things like, "Oh everyone who played against him knows he would have averaged 50+ in Tests"
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Mark Waugh after 7 Tests
1039 runs @ 61 with 2 centuries & 2 fifties

Taylor said this after his debut : Mark Taylor called Waugh the "best-looking leg-side player I've seen in my time. . . anything drifting into his pads is hit beautifully."
 
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peterhrt

U19 Captain
Johan said:
Trying to calculate how many hundreds Hammond has over Larwood
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Hammond's first-class record (including Tests) when at least one fast bowler was playing for the opposition. In several matches there were two, or sometimes three in the case of the West Indians.

8704 runs, average 56.15. 31 centuries. Eight of these were doubles and one a treble (against Voce). Average shown in innings when each bowler was playing, with dismissals by that bowler in brackets. Not counting fast-medium types like Tate, Cowie and Amar Singh. Number of hundreds and highest score in blue type.

Nissar: 110 (1). 2 hundreds, HS 217.
Voce: 97 (4). 9 hundreds, HS 317. With three of the hundreds, Larwood was playing as well.
McDonald: 71 (5). 3 hundreds, HS 250*.
Martindale: 52 (2). 2 hundreds, HS 281*. With one of the hundreds, Constantine was playing as well.
McCormick 51 (1). 1 hundred, HS 240.
Gregory: 49 (2). 1 hundred, HS 225.
Larwood: 47 (3). 5 hundreds, HS 130. With three of the hundreds, Voce was playing as well.
Miller: 42 (-). 3 hundreds, HS 121.
Constantine: 40 (11). 4 hundreds, HS 138. With one of the hundreds, Martindale was playing as well.
George Francis: 38 (3). 1 hundred, HS 238*.
Herman Griffith 38 (4). 1 hundred, HS 264.
Tim Wall 37 (6). 3 hundreds, HS 145.
Hylton 29 (2). HS 47.
Eddie Gilbert 27 (-). HS 27.
Farnes 24 (2). HS 68.
Lindwall: 21 (1). HS 32.

Hammond gave up the hook shot just before the 1928-29 series in Australia and became more of a front-foot player intent on big scores. His pre-war Ashes average in Australia was higher than Bradman's. Without the hook, he became more of target for fast bowlers, but generally experienced little difficulty against them, as the figures show. Although he was dismissed on 22 occasions by West Indian quicks, he scored seven hundreds against them, three of which were doubles.
 
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Johan

Johan

International Regular
peterhrt said:
Hammond's first-class record (including Tests) when at least one fast bowler was playing for the opposition. In several matches there were two, or sometimes three in the case of the West Indians.

8704 runs, average 56.15. 31 centuries. Eight of these were doubles and one a treble (against Voce). Average shown in innings when each bowler was playing, with dismissals by that bowler in brackets. Not counting fast-medium types like Tate, Cowie and Amar Singh. Number of hundreds and highest score in blue type.

Nissar: 110 (1). 2 hundreds, HS 217.
Voce: 97 (4). 9 hundreds, HS 317. With three of the hundreds, Larwood was playing as well.
McDonald: 71 (5) 3 hundreds, HS 250*.
Martindale: 52 (2) 2 hundreds, HS 281*. With one of the hundreds, Constantine was playing as well.
McCormick 51 (1). 1 hundred, HS 240.
Gregory: 49 (2). 1 hundred, HS 225.
Larwood: 47 (3). 5 hundreds, HS 130. With three of the hundreds, Voce was playing as well.
Miller: 42 (-). 3 hundreds, HS 121.
Constantine: 40 (11). 4 hundreds, HS 138. With one of the hundreds, Martindale was playing as well.
George Francis: 38 (3). 1 hundred, HS 238*.
Herman Griffith 38 (4). 1 hundred, HS 264.
Tim Wall 37 (6). 3 hundreds, HS 145.
Hylton 29 (2). HS 47.
Eddie Gilbert 27 (-). HS 27.
Farnes 24 (2). HS 68.
Lindwall: 21 (1.) HS 32.

Hammond gave up the hook shot just before the 1928-29 series in Australia and became more of a front-foot player intent on big scores. His pre-war Ashes average in Australia was higher than Bradman's. Without the hook, he became more of target for fast bowlers, but generally experienced little difficulty against them, as the figures show. Although he was dismissed on 22 occasions by West Indian quicks, he scored seven hundreds against them, three of which were doubles.
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so 47 with Larwood? seems like I was very close and just missed one hundred.

by the way, is their context behind his struggles with Constantine?
 
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