Which current players are/will be ATGs?

[govinda indian fan]

Same with
rabada. Needs to play more tests

 

[PaulLennon]

Will do well in india and sl from next tour. England is different english pitches since bazball are flat and 27 is good nz can improve
Bumrah average in nz is 32 so Cummins has done well. Think cummins will end as 3rd greatest Australian pacer after lille and mcgarth

Bumrah Cummins tiebreak is performance in each other's countries.

Cummins already has had 2 tours each of SL and Ind.

 

[kyear2]

Aah ok. Fair enough. What you define as ATGs I consider "GOAT contenders" ie if you say that this person was the best of all time, you could make a credible argument for it.

I have between 35 and 40 ATGs, so way below the standard of GOAT contenders. I only have 8 of those.

 

[sayon basak]

Ben Stokes.

 

[sayon basak]

Seriously, Bumrah, Cummins and Rabada will be ATG's, Bumrah and Cummins almost being one already.

Someone of Brook, Jaiswal, Kamindu would be a good shout. Can't think of any all rounders though.

 

[number11]

This is a matter of definition. As I posted months ago, I feel to be a true ATG you have to be a valid contender/shortlisted for a place in an AT World XI or 2nd XI. Those guys are the T1 ATGs. T2 ATGs are those remarkable cricketers who may just miss out on the first category - but each will make/compete for an era XI/locked in country greats.

 

[number11]

I have between 35 and 40 ATGs, so way below the standard of GOAT contenders. I only have 8 of those.

The number of certified T1 ATGs is miniscule:

To illustrate:

WI has: Sobers, Marshall, Viv, Lara, Headley who immediately come to mind. Ambrose is there abouts. As it is 4 of those guys make my AT world test XI.

 

[kevinw]

What are we judging ATGs as? Within the top 30 to 50 or so cricketers or all time? Then I'd say Smith, Jadeja and Bumrah from this generation. Root, Williamson, Cummins, Ashwin and Rabada possibly just below.

 

[honestbharani]

What are we judging ATGs as? Within the top 30 to 50 or so cricketers or all time? Then I'd say Smith, Jadeja and Bumrah from this generation. Root, Williamson, Cummins, Ashwin and Rabada possibly just below.

I actually would put Smith in the second group and might bump up Cummins to first group but yeah, that sounds fair.

 

[govinda indian fan]

I actually would put Smith in the second group and might bump up Cummins to first group but yeah, that sounds fair.

Smith is greatest batsmen bar don sobers viv and sachin. He should be in first list while Cummins too is atg but needs to improve record in sc

 

[Coronis]

What are we judging ATGs as? Within the top 30 to 50 or so cricketers or all time? Then I'd say Smith, Jadeja and Bumrah from this generation. Root, Williamson, Cummins, Ashwin and Rabada possibly just below.

It differs for each poster here.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

What are we judging ATGs as? Within the top 30 to 50 or so cricketers or all time? Then I'd say Smith, Jadeja and Bumrah from this generation. Root, Williamson, Cummins, Ashwin and Rabada possibly just below.

Jadeja!!

 

[kyear2]

What are we judging ATGs as? Within the top 30 to 50 or so cricketers or all time? Then I'd say Smith, Jadeja and Bumrah from this generation. Root, Williamson, Cummins, Ashwin and Rabada possibly just below.

I have 40, and only Smith is for sure in it. Bumrah is the most likely to break through though, Cummins possibly as well.

Jadeja really isn't in that category tbh.

 

[CricAddict]

I have 40, and only Smith is for sure in it. Bumrah is the most likely to break through though, Cummins possibly as well.

Jadeja really isn't in that category tbh.

Ravindra Jadeja is the best left arm spin all-rounder in history.

 

[kyear2]

Ravindra Jadeja is the best left arm spin all-rounder in history.

And very awfully specific, and not entirely 100% true.

Honestly don't see him as a top 40 or even 50 player ever

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Ravindra Jadeja is the best left arm spin all-rounder in history.

Garry Sobers would like a word.

 

[kyear2]

Garry Sobers would like a word.

Exactly

 

[h_hurricane]

Sobers' left arm spin is insanely over-rated. He isn't a patch on Vettori in that style let alone Jadeja.

 

[sayon basak]

Shakib is arguably an ATG

This.

 

[sayon basak]

The correct answer is Garner (for his batting)