Gary Sobers vs Steven Smith

[Sliferxxxx]

Sobers for now. Unless Smith drastically turns things around.

 

[271 & 16/166]

Hammonds is cooler than Hammond

I think most people especially women is glad there wasn't multiple Hammond's

 

[kyear2]

I think most people especially women is glad there wasn't multiple Hammond's

Indeed

 

[sayon basak]

Sobers for now. Unless Smith drastically turns things around.

Which is obviously not gonna happen.

 

[DrWolverine]

What does Smith have to do?
He had a better peak.
He played majority of matches against better teams.
He was/is great against everyone and in in every place.
He has almost zero weakness and had perfect record.

 

[kyear2]

What does Smith have to do?
He had a better peak.
He played majority of matches against better teams.
He was/is great against everyone and in in every place.
He has almost zero weakness and had perfect record.

First half of his career, especially at home was comatose dead. Like 30's level dead pitches. Even when you compare his career in stages to someone like Punter, it's eerily similar.

He's better obviously, but even that is disputed by some.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Sir Garry.

 

[Fanboy375]

@Fanboy375 reasoning?

I think Smith can comeback to his previous form.

 

[sayon basak]

I think Smith can comeback to his previous form.

He has a pretty good chance of retiring before that happens.

 

[subshakerz]

I am starting to downgrade Smith myself because I am realising his peer rating isn't unanimous at all. In fact, he isn't even a clear no.2 of the Fab Four when it comes to peer rating. It has really dropped.

Of course it might change when he announces retirement.

 

[DrWolverine]

Maybe it has to do with 3 formats being played.

Regardless of peer rating or his “ugly” style Steven Smith is hands down the best Test player of his era.

 

[subshakerz]

Maybe it has to do with 3 formats being played.

Regardless of peer rating or his “ugly” style Steven Smith is hands down the best Test player of his era.

Thats possible. I am not sure.

 

[stephen]

It's hard to rate players properly before they retire. Sobers obviously is the better all round player given his bowling. But purely on batting it's much closer.

If I could guarantee the toss, I'd take Smith. But given he has a 50/50 chance of batting second, Sobers edges ahead.

 

[sayon basak]

I am starting to downgrade Smith myself because I am realising his peer rating isn't unanimous at all. In fact, he isn't even a clear no.2 of the Fab Four when it comes to peer rating. It has really dropped.

Of course it might change when he announces retirement.

Was thinking about Younis Khan's peer rating. Isn't that fairly low for someone with his record? Often (almost always, actually) see him rated below Inzy.

 

[subshakerz]

Was thinking about Younis Khan's peer rating. Isn't that fairly low for someone with his record? Often (almost always, actually) see him rated below Inzy.

Younis unfortunately was in an era with a deluge of 50 average batters and got lost

 

[Briony]

Garfield by a street.

 

[sayon basak]

Younis unfortunately was in an era with a deluge of 50 average batters and got lost

Hope he gets rated higher in the future (if it's possible)

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Which is obviously not gonna happen.

I disagree. I don't see why Smith can't have a second wind to his career the same way a Lara did. OK fine, wickets were flatter when Lara did but there aren't that many really threatening attacks outside his own, India in India and South Africa at home.

 

[Prince EWS]

I am starting to downgrade Smith myself because I am realising his peer rating isn't unanimous at all. In fact, he isn't even a clear no.2 of the Fab Four when it comes to peer rating. It has really dropped.

Of course it might change when he announces retirement.

Relying on peer rating when you've actually closely watched and followed someone's career at the time is particularly silly.

 

[kyear2]

Younis unfortunately was in an era with a deluge of 50 average batters and got lost

Yeah, this.