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Malcolm Marshall vs Sydney Barnes

Marshall vs Barnes

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Johan

Johan

International Captain
Barnes might be better but I'll go Marshall as he is just as much of a giant of the game and he fits my fast bowlers agenda more.
 
Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
sayon basak said:
Any photographic evidence to support your claim, sir?
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No.

From Wikipedia..

Barnes was described as more than six feet tall and maintaining an erect posture with wide shoulders, a deep chest, long arms and strong legs – in John Arlott's view, "perfectly built to be a bowler".

From a Wordpress article

Standing 6ft 1 inches tall, Syd Barnes was also muscular and had long fingers and arms. Self- taught, Barnes bowled right-arm fast medium, much like McGrath, yet he delivered these balls with the accuracy and spin of a leg spinner like Warne. He was reasonably quick yet could bowl both leg-break and off-break deliveries, perfect for today’s Twenty20 cricket. What makes Barnes stand head and shoulders above the rest was his skill to bowl the ‘Barnes Ball’. The ‘Barnes Ball’ was delivered at 125 kph, and would swing toward middle and leg. Once pitched, the ball would spin sharply cutting across the batsman collecting their off stump or a slight nick to the eager fielders in slip. Adding to his repertoire, Barnes’ second stock delivery was the opposite of the ‘Barnes Ball’, this ball would swing late away from the batsman, yet spin in sharply once it hit the pitch, often castling the batsman’s stumps.


More than 6’ implies at least 6’1. We know Marshall was “only” 5’11.
 
sayon basak

sayon basak

Cricketer Of The Year
capt_Luffy said:
I am interested in knowing how you came to know that......
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I did ask Coronis if he had any phtographic evidence, but all he did is this:-
Coronis said:
No.

From Wikipedia..

Barnes was described as more than six feet tall and maintaining an erect posture with wide shoulders, a deep chest, long arms and strong legs – in John Arlott's view, "perfectly built to be a bowler".

From a Wordpress article

Standing 6ft 1 inches tall, Syd Barnes was also muscular and had long fingers and arms. Self- taught, Barnes bowled right-arm fast medium, much like McGrath, yet he delivered these balls with the accuracy and spin of a leg spinner like Warne. He was reasonably quick yet could bowl both leg-break and off-break deliveries, perfect for today’s Twenty20 cricket. What makes Barnes stand head and shoulders above the rest was his skill to bowl the ‘Barnes Ball’. The ‘Barnes Ball’ was delivered at 125 kph, and would swing toward middle and leg. Once pitched, the ball would spin sharply cutting across the batsman collecting their off stump or a slight nick to the eager fielders in slip. Adding to his repertoire, Barnes’ second stock delivery was the opposite of the ‘Barnes Ball’, this ball would swing late away from the batsman, yet spin in sharply once it hit the pitch, often castling the batsman’s stumps.


More than 6’ implies at least 6’1. We know Marshall was “only” 5’11.
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kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
Coronis said:
No.

From Wikipedia..

Barnes was described as more than six feet tall and maintaining an erect posture with wide shoulders, a deep chest, long arms and strong legs – in John Arlott's view, "perfectly built to be a bowler".

From a Wordpress article

Standing 6ft 1 inches tall, Syd Barnes was also muscular and had long fingers and arms. Self- taught, Barnes bowled right-arm fast medium, much like McGrath, yet he delivered these balls with the accuracy and spin of a leg spinner like Warne. He was reasonably quick yet could bowl both leg-break and off-break deliveries, perfect for today’s Twenty20 cricket. What makes Barnes stand head and shoulders above the rest was his skill to bowl the ‘Barnes Ball’. The ‘Barnes Ball’ was delivered at 125 kph, and would swing toward middle and leg. Once pitched, the ball would spin sharply cutting across the batsman collecting their off stump or a slight nick to the eager fielders in slip. Adding to his repertoire, Barnes’ second stock delivery was the opposite of the ‘Barnes Ball’, this ball would swing late away from the batsman, yet spin in sharply once it hit the pitch, often castling the batsman’s stumps.


More than 6’ implies at least 6’1. We know Marshall was “only” 5’11.
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If I were ever to truly select an "all time" XI, the highlighted bit, plus if I could be convinced that he was at least in the 80's speed wise, then I could be persuaded to have him open the attack with his opponent in this thread.

The rest of the article, his two sided record, the lack of challenging and varied conditions, and (comparatively speaking) opponents leads me back to Pigeon though.
 
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