Fred Trueman vs Joel Garner

[sayon basak]

The better bowler?

 

[Johan]

nobody on this forum loves Garner more than me but Trueman beats him out.

 

[sayon basak]

nobody on this forum loves Garner more than me but Trueman beats him out.

Because there is nobody in this forum who loves Trueman more than you.

 

[sayon basak]

Lol I don't even remember making this poll.


Dementia is really kicking in.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lol I don't even remember making this poll.


Dementia is really kicking in.

I would understand had it been a year old; you literally made it yesterday!!!

 

[sayon basak]

I would understand had it been a year old; you literally made it yesterday!!!

Ok I remember now. I made it to figure out whom should I rate in my top 10 quicks. Was waiting for some heated arguments to make up my mind.

 

[sayon basak]

Top 12:-
Malcolm Marshall
Glenn McGrath
Richard Hadlee
Sydney Barnes
Curtly Ambrose
Dale Steyn
Wasim Akram
Imran Khan
Dennis Lillee
Allan Donald
Fred Trueman
Joel Garner

Good? Did I forget someone?

 

[Johan]

Because there is nobody in this forum who loves Trueman more than you.

there are some I reckon.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Top 11:-
Malcolm Marshall
Glenn McGrath
Richard Hadlee
Sydney Barnes
Curtly Ambrose
Dale Steyn
Wasim Akram
Imran Khan
Dennis Lillee
Fred Trueman
Joel Garner

Good? Did I forget someone?

Donald......

 

[sayon basak]

Donald......

Oh sh*t.

Seems like way easier to remember 150 digits of pi than to remember your own top 10.

 

[DrWolverine]

Fred Trueman averaged 27 in Australia, 32 in WestIndies and untested in Asian pitches. The only place he was truly great was in England.

 

[DrWolverine]

Top 11:-
Malcolm Marshall
Glenn McGrath
Richard Hadlee
Sydney Barnes
Curtly Ambrose
Dale Steyn
Wasim Akram
Imran Khan
Dennis Lillee
Allan Donald
Fred Trueman
Joel Garner

Good? Did I forget someone?

White Lightening

 

[Johan]

1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Richard Hadlee
4. Curtly Ambrose
5. Dale Steyn
6. Imran Khan
7. Dennis Lillee/Fred Trueman
8. Dennis Lillee/Fred Trueman
9. Wasim Akram
10. Joel Garner
11. Allan Donald
12. Ray Lindwall

for me.

 

[sayon basak]

1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Richard Hadlee
4. Curtly Ambrose
5. Dale Steyn
6. Imran Khan
7. Dennis Lillee/Fred Trueman
8. Dennis Lillee/Fred Trueman
9. Wasim Akram
10. Joel Garner
11. Allan Donald
12. Ray Lindwall

for me.

You don't see Barnes as a pacer, right?
Understandable.

 

[Prince EWS]

Garner for his batting.

 

[Johan]

You don't see Barnes as a pacer, right?
Understandable.

I think he was someone who could move the ball early, bowl swingers and back breaks, and then revert to spinner when the ball gets old, a bit like Sobers tho obviously infinitely higher in quality. I've him ahead of Warne/Murali/O Reilly in bowlers ranking.

 

[sayon basak]

White Lightening

Included.

Just inside my top 10.

 

[Johan]

Garner over Donald

 

[sayon basak]

I think he was someone who could move the ball early, bowl swingers and back breaks, and then revert to spinner when the ball gets old, a bit like Sobers tho obviously infinitely higher in quality. I've him ahead of Warne/Murali/O Reilly in bowlers ranking.

In ESPN profile he is classified as someone who bowled Right arm fast Medium and Right arm Medium. Wikipedia includes Right arm Leg spin.
Guess he really didn't need the Googly...

 

[Johan]

Fred Trueman averaged 27 in Australia, 32 in WestIndies and untested in Asian pitches. The only place he was truly great was in England.

with this logic Garner is higher than Imran and Steyn because they also have holes in their record while Garner doesn't