Is jadeja atg?

[govinda indian fan]

Has batting average of 37 and bowling average of 24. Is he a bonifide atg or just great player

 

[sayon basak]

Good question. He definitely has the numbers of an ATG. But maybe his numbers can't be taken at face value.

Also depends on how many ATG's there are.

 

[sayon basak]

@Red_Ink_Squid could you add a poll in this thread in the name of Woakes?

That'd be cool.

 

[Thala_0710]

That depends on how strict your criteria for an ATG is. For me he isn't

 

[honestbharani]

Yes, he is an ATG.

 

[sayon basak]

Here's @capt_Luffy's effort to compile a list of ATG cricketers:-

Batsmen:

KS Ranjitsinhji
Victor Trumper
Jack Hobbs
Herbert Sutcliffe
Wally Hammond
Don Bradman
George Headley
Len Hutton
Dudley Nourse
Everton Weekes
Ken Barrington
Graeme Pollock
Greg Chappell
Sunil Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Allan Border
Javed Miandad
Steve Waugh
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Steve Smith
Joe Root

Bowlers:
Fred Spofforth
Sydney Barnes
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Ray Lindwall
Fred Trueman
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Michael Holding
Joel Garner
Malcolm Marshall
Courtney Walsh
Curtly Ambrose
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Allan Donald
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
Mutthiah Muralitharan
James Anderson
Dale Steyn
Pat Cummins

All-rounders:
WG Grace
Wilfred Rhodes
Aubrey Faulkner
Garry Sobers
Keith Miller
Alan Davidson
Imran Khan
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Richard Hadlee
Jacques Kallis
Shaun Pollock
Ravichandran Ashwin

Wicketkeepers:
Jack Blackham
Les Ames
Godfrey Evans
Clyde Walcott
Alan Knott
Ian Healy
Andy Flower
Adam Gilchrist
Kumar Sangakkara

Captains:
Frank Worrell
Richie Benaud

Overall cricketers but not just Test:
Mike Procter
Barry Richards
Vintcent van der Bijl
MS Dhoni
AB de Villiers
Virat Kohli
Jasprit Bumrah

Jadeja missed the cut, which is very much agreeable.

 

[kevinw]

I would put him in the top tier of all rounders, sure. Possibly the best spin all rounder of all time really because you'd pick Sobers as a bat (whose bowling was handy but he wasn't at the same level).

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I would rate him in the same tier as Sobers, Imran, Kallis, and Miller

 

[sayon basak]

I would put him in the top tier of all rounders, sure. Possibly the best spin all rounder of all time really because you'd pick Sobers as a bat (whose bowling was handy but he wasn't at the same level).

Faulkner was better.

 

[sayon basak]

I would rate him in the same tier as Sobers, Imran, Kallis, and Miller

All of these players have a better away record. And their primary discipline was also better than Jadeja's. So, not in the same tier for me.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

@Red_Ink_Squid could you add a poll in this thread in the name of Woakes?

That'd be cool.

'k.

 

[kevinw]

Faulkner was better.

Similar numbers but presumably AF performed in less spin friendly conditions.

 

[sayon basak]

Similar numbers but presumably AF performed in less spin friendly conditions.

Isn't that a good thing? Faulkner was a better test batter, while being one of the best leggies of his time. Also performed in a much, much weaker team.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Here's @capt_Luffy's effort to compile a list of ATG cricketers:-

Batsmen:

KS Ranjitsinhji
Victor Trumper
Jack Hobbs
Herbert Sutcliffe
Wally Hammond
Don Bradman
George Headley
Len Hutton
Dudley Nourse
Everton Weekes
Ken Barrington
Graeme Pollock
Greg Chappell
Sunil Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Allan Border
Javed Miandad
Steve Waugh
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Steve Smith
Joe Root

Bowlers:
Fred Spofforth
Sydney Barnes
Clarrie Grimmett
Bill O'Reilly
Ray Lindwall
Fred Trueman
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Michael Holding
Joel Garner
Malcolm Marshall
Courtney Walsh
Curtly Ambrose
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Allan Donald
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
Mutthiah Muralitharan
James Anderson
Dale Steyn
Pat Cummins

All-rounders:
WG Grace
Wilfred Rhodes
Aubrey Faulkner
Garry Sobers
Keith Miller
Alan Davidson
Imran Khan
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Richard Hadlee
Jacques Kallis
Shaun Pollock
Ravichandran Ashwin

Wicketkeepers:
Jack Blackham
Les Ames
Godfrey Evans
Clyde Walcott
Alan Knott
Ian Healy
Andy Flower
Adam Gilchrist
Kumar Sangakkara

Captains:
Frank Worrell
Richie Benaud

Overall cricketers but not just Test:
Mike Procter
Barry Richards
Vintcent van der Bijl
MS Dhoni
AB de Villiers
Virat Kohli
Jasprit Bumrah

Jadeja missed the cut, which is very much agreeable.

If I run it again, I think he may make the cut.

 

[cnerd123]

obv an ATG

 

[sayon basak]

If I run it again, I think he may make the cut.

Run it again then. Will be interesting to see if Dhoni and Shakib makes the cut.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

All of these players have a better away record. And their primary discipline was also better than Jadeja's. So, not in the same tier for me.

Ok

 

[TheJediBrah]

Borderline. Probably IMO. One of the more underrated players going around

 

[ataraxia]

Borderline. Probably IMO. One of the more underrated players going around

Yeah he seldom receives the credit he deserves.

 

[sayon basak]

Ok

Thanks.