Shakib al Hasan Banned

[Line and Length]

The ECB has banned Shakib al Hasan from bowling in ECB organised tournaments.

Shakib Al Hasan Banned from Bowling in ECB Organised Tournaments

In a significant development for Bangladesh cricket, Shakib Al Hasan has been banned from bowling in England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) competitions after his bowling action was deemed illegal

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[Prince EWS]

Yeah pretty big surprise given he's gone a very long career without anyone really questioning it much/at all.

 

[kevinw]

Was he ever likely to come back and play in England?

 

[Betterpolo]

Yeah pretty big surprise given he's gone a very long career without anyone really questioning it much/at all.

71 Tests, 247 ODIs, 129 T20s. Unless his action has changed you would have thought someone would have noticed by now.

Shipped in for a sole top of the table clash in the run-in to last season's CC, the ECB will be happy his 9 wickets in that game didn't decide the title.

 

[Betterpolo]

Was he ever likely to come back and play in England?

It's possible, it looks like he's on a mission to play for every team in the world

 

[Burgey]

This is pretty funny

 

[TheJediBrah]

So someone finally actually watched a Bangladesh cricket match and noticed

 

[Starfighter]

So someone finally actually watched a Bangladesh cricket match and noticed

It was the match where Surrey, who often don't play a specialist spinner at all (let alone one eligible for England) conveniently spirited him as overseas player for one match on a turner at Taunton (he took 9 wickets in the match).

In my watching his elbow's long had a pretty obvious bend and it was just a question of whether or by how much he was straightening it. Apparently someone in England is asking the same question.

 

[Betterpolo]

It was the match where Surrey, who often don't play a specialist spinner at all (let alone one eligible for England) conveniently spirited him as overseas player for one match on a turner at Taunton (he took 9 wickets in the match).

In my watching his elbow's long had a pretty obvious bend and it was just a question of whether or by how much he was straightening it. Apparently someone in England is asking the same question.

Can't believe Surrey didn't provide an over-sized long-sleeved shirt. They're normally good on these 1%ers

 

[TheJediBrah]

It was the match where Surrey, who often don't play a specialist spinner at all (let alone one eligible for England) conveniently spirited him as overseas player for one match on a turner at Taunton (he took 9 wickets in the match).

In my watching his elbow's long had a pretty obvious bend and it was just a question of whether or by how much he was straightening it. Apparently someone in England is asking the same question.

Spinners chucking has been an increasingly big issue over the last couple decades in my experience. Even (maybe especially) in club and grade cricket. In Australia, half the estabished Grade finger-spin bowlers, and young spinners coming through pathways bowlers, have at least somewhat suspicious actions. My theory is it's getting more accepted at all levels from grass roots up to professional levels to the extent that if you're going to get away with it, it would be irresponsible not to take advantage of it. As an off-spinner a little elbow bend is massively helpful with both pace and revs. It would be nice to a crackdown at lower levels rather than waiting for them to become internationals before doing anything about it.

Again using Australia as an example we had Kuhnemann play Tests last year and you can't tell me his action isn't extremely suspicious. Then you have the likes of Chris Green and Cam Gannon (not a spinner, but still) plying their trade in State cricket. From travelling around a few Victorian comps over the last decade I can tell you that it's even worse the lower down you go.

 

[Line and Length]

I support TJB's observations. One of the problems is that, at a Club level, umpires are instructed not to no-ball suspect actions. Instead they have to report their suspicions. What happens next is rather vague. After a certain number of reports an 'investigation' is carried out. This apparently involves an official attending a training session and filming the suspect action. The player involved is usually aware of what is happening and, in all probability, won't reveal his more obvious action.
I have a feeling that this process, or something similar, may occur at higher levels.

 

[thierry henry]

I regularly think finger spinners are chucking it, but Santner and Shakib have now been called out (well obviously a couple of CW posts vs an actual ban is a big difference, but you catch my drift, pun intended) in the last few days and previously I didn't have even the slightest issue with either action.

I did see some footage of Shakib recently where he looked like he'd gotten pretty lazy with it tbf. He was always quite round arm so his action didn't have that stiff, jerky look to it that a lot of dodgy spinners have. He now looks like he's starting from more of a bent position and using his elbow rather than the full swing/extension of his arm and body to put revs on the ball.

 

[Burgey]

I support TJB's observations. One of the problems is that, at a Club level, umpires are instructed not to no-ball suspect actions. Instead they have to report their suspicions. What happens next is rather vague. After a certain number of reports an 'investigation' is carried out. This apparently involves an official attending a training session and filming the suspect action. The player involved is usually aware of what is happening and, in all probability, won't reveal his more obvious action.
I have a feeling that this process, or something similar, may occur at higher levels.

Yeah I third these observations.

It's a pox on the game. The Murali saga has ****ed it for everyone at lower levels. Umpires should just no ball people they think are chucking at that level and be done with it. There's no testing at lower levels so what happens is you end up with people mvoing up through the ranks who are flat out taking the piss with their bowling actions. I foretold this happening when the Murali sook fest went on. Why would you bowl within the laws when you can get away with trash actions across al evels of the game.

They really should have banned him back in the 90s and been done with it. Very short sighted to allow him to keep -playing tbh, as much as I enjoyed him getting belted by our blokes whenever he came here.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Surprising, but there’s another guy who chucks it like crazy and gets treated with kid gloves, which is appalling.

Sunil Narine

 

[honestbharani]

Think Narine is the worst tbh. And I think Shakib was pretty ok before. Agree with th that he seems to have gotten lazy or doesn't give a **** now.

 

[sayon basak]

Think Narine is the worst tbh.

I always felt like he used to chuck it on purpose.

Agree with that he seems to have gotten lazy or doesn't give a **** now.

As he shouldn't.

 

[social]

I support TJB's observations. One of the problems is that, at a Club level, umpires are instructed not to no-ball suspect actions. Instead they have to report their suspicions. What happens next is rather vague. After a certain number of reports an 'investigation' is carried out. This apparently involves an official attending a training session and filming the suspect action. The player involved is usually aware of what is happening and, in all probability, won't reveal his more obvious action.
I have a feeling that this process, or something similar, may occur at higher levels.

Yep plus the umpires (understandably) don’t want the grief

A couple of years ago, a rival father/coach insisted upon reporting a kid’s action to the state association purely out of malice

Association was obligated to do testing

 

[cnerd123]

Shakib's action has never been an issue, so this is very odd. Any footage out there of his bowling in this particular game?

 

[Son Of Coco]

Yep plus the umpires (understandably) don’t want the grief

A couple of years ago, a rival father/coach insisted upon reporting a kid’s action to the state association purely out of malice

Association was obligated to do testing

Ha, yeah we had the opposite situation where a bloke playing 2nd grade about 20 years ago had an action that was as dodgy as ****. When I was at the non-striker's end, I said to the umpire "that's ok is it?", and he told me that he had been tested and cleared. I said "are they doing biomechanical testing on 2nd grade bowlers now are they?".

It was a load of ****, and the bloke was a ****head (the bowler, not the umpire). I understand the umpire not wanting to be bothered though. It's more effort and trouble than it is worth at that level, and he probably would have ended up getting punched in the head over it. The team the bowler was in was pretty rough.

 

[social]

Ha, yeah we had the opposite situation where a bloke playing 2nd grade about 20 years ago had an action that was as dodgy as ****. When I was at the non-striker's end, I said to the umpire "that's ok is it?", and he told me that he had been tested and cleared. I said "are they doing biomechanical testing on 2nd grade bowlers now are they?".

It was a load of ****, and the bloke was a ****head (the bowler, not the umpire). I understand the umpire not wanting to be bothered though. It's more effort and trouble than it is worth at that level, and he probably would have ended up getting punched in the head over it. The team the bowler was in was pretty rough.

Coach who made the complaint was a former fc cricketer so association were basically forced to take it seriously

Guy is a **** and it was all about selections in rep teams