Who among the four allrounders would have done better in T20s?

[ataraxia]

Contrary to popular assumption, sloggers in ODIs who try and smash from ball 1 don't translate as well into T20. I see what happened to Afridi happening to Kapil too.

You need those bats who are capable of actually building a knock and then accelerating and the only two who can do that are Botham and Imran.

I won't chastise you for not paying attention to T20s, but for these guys, the job's definitely to slog ASAP lol.

But none of these guys are likely batting in the top 6 in a T20 meaning they will be selected primarily for bowling ability. In which case it's either Hadlee or Imran who have a bowling set that will work in this format.

Bar Hadlee, all of these guys will normally be batting top 6 in T20Is.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think Joel Garner and Lance Cairns would've been better than all of them

Yeah two good all rounders.

 

[subshakerz]

Bar Hadlee, all of these guys will normally be batting top 6 in T20Is.

Really? I think that would be tough honestly unless the top 4 have already taken most of the first 15 overs.

I just think Hadlee giving McGrath-like opening overs can't be underestimated.

 

[subshakerz]

But you overlook the fact that Kapil wasn’t a mediocre swing bowler who would get smashed. He would adapt to the situation. And he was a much better ODI bowler than Botham, so you can’t equate them in those terms

I think bowling averages of that time are a bit deflated since you didn't have aggressive bats and higher run scoring.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Yeah two good all rounders.

Lance Cairns was an ODI allrounder and Garner is praised so much on here for his batting...

 

[Prince EWS]

Lance Cairns was an ODI allrounder and Garner is praised so much on here for his batting...

Yeah that was my point.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Was Lance Cairns poor man's Madan Lal?

Cairns had a strike rate of 105 in the 70s/80s

 

[ataraxia]

Really? I think that would be tough honestly unless the top 4 have already taken most of the first 15 overs.

I just think Hadlee giving McGrath-like opening overs can't be underestimated.

Tough? As in, bowling 4 overs making it too difficult to bat???

 

[subshakerz]

Tough? As in, bowling 4 overs making it too difficult to bat???

Nah that their batting good enough to occupy the spot in top 6.

 

[DrWolverine]

Cairns had a strike rate of 105 in the 70s/80s

78 ODIs(1974-1985). Not a great record tbh.
987 runs. Avg of 16. SR of 105. 2 fifties.
89 wickets. Avg of 30. ER of 4.13

 

[sayon basak]

Nah that their batting good enough to occupy the spot in top 6.

Kapil could finish the innings with a high S.R.
After all, he strikes at 95 in ODI's.

 

[ataraxia]

Nah that their batting good enough to occupy the spot in top 6.

Those three all batted in the top 6 in ODIs most of time. Admittedly Kapil's record is pretty well split between #6 and #7, but with his hitting skills he'd definitely bat higher in T20s.

 

[subshakerz]

Those three all batted in the top 6 in ODIs most of time. Admittedly Kapil's record is pretty well split between #6 and #7, but with his hitting skills he'd definitely bat higher in T20s.

Hmm I thought more down the order like a better version of Pandiya.

 

[Prince EWS]

Kimber mentioned recently that Gary Gilmour could have been a gun T20 cricketer way above how he was rated at the time in Tests. A bit before my time but seems like a fair call.

Tony Greig would have loved it too.

 

[Prince EWS]

Hmm I thought more down the order like a better version of Pandiya.

Pandya himself usually bats 5 in T20Is. He's batted in the top six in 87% of his innings.

 

[honestbharani]

The guy who scored a very quick 80 with Viv Richards in the 1979 final. He would have been a good shout as a great T20 allrounder as well, I think.

 

[DrWolverine]

The guy who scored a very quick 80 with Viv Richards in the 1979 final. He would have been a good shout as a great T20 allrounder as well, I think.

Collin King? I read he overshadowed even the King on that day but never read anything else about him

 

[honestbharani]

Collin King? I read he overshadowed even the King on that day but never read anything else about him

Think its Collis King, but yeah, him.