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Combining ODI and Test records, who are the 5 greatest cricketers ever?

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Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
capt_Luffy said:
Given top 4 is universal; Akram, Hadlee, Pollock, Garner are some tough dudes to topple, especially considering both the formats. Especially Pollock got way underrated in this thread till now.
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Pollock is a great shout tbh. Probably with 45% odi weightage, I'll have him top 8. I prefer 75-25 or min 65-35 for the weights, have him below Imran because of that
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

U19 Vice-Captain
capt_Luffy said:
Given around equal weightage (55-45 for Tests, the lowest I can go):
  1. Sachin Tendulkar
  2. Viv Richards
  3. Glenn McGrath
  4. Mutthiah Muralitharan
  5. Wasim Akram
  6. Richard Hadlee
  7. Shaun Pollock
  8. Joel Garner
  9. Adam Gilchrist
  10. Imran Khan
  11. Brian Lara
  12. Allan Donald
  13. Curtly Ambrose
  14. Ricky Ponting
  15. Kapil Dev
  16. Waqar Younis
  17. Shane Warne
  18. A B de Villiers
  19. Virat Kohli
  20. Jasprit Bumrah
  21. Kumar Sangakkara
  22. Dennis Lillee
  23. Michael Holding
  24. Greg Chappell
  25. Shakib Al Hasan
  26. Javed Miandad
  27. Jacques Kallis
  28. Gordon Greenidge
  29. Steve Smith
  30. Malcolm Marshall
  31. Dale Steyn
  32. M S Dhoni
  33. Andy Roberts
  34. Saqlain Mushtaq
  35. Courtney Walsh
  36. Andrew Flintoff
  37. Zaheer Abbas
  38. Mitchell Starc
  39. Dean Jones
  40. Hashim Amla
  41. Mitchell Johnson
  42. Joe Root
  43. Aravinda de Silva
  44. Mohmmad Shami
  45. Kane Williamson
  46. Anil Kumble
  47. Kagiso Rabada
  48. Ross Taylor
  49. Fanie de Villiers
  50. Virendra Sehwag
  51. Chaminda Vaas
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Kudos for the effort
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

U19 Vice-Captain
Thala_0710 said:
Pollock is a great shout tbh. Probably with 45% odi weightage, I'll have him top 8. I prefer 75-25 or min 65-35 for the weights, have him below Imran because of that
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Does Pollock make it to an all time ODI 11?

An all time great bowler and useful lower order batsman.
 
T

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
DrWolverine said:
Does Pollock make it to an all time ODI 11?

An all time great bowler and useful lower order batsman.
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For me he just missed out
Sachin
Rohit
Richards
Kohli
De Villiers
Dhoni*+
Klusener
Wasim
Garner
McGrath
Murali

Could take Sanath over Rohit for a better 6th bowling option, but I'll go Rohit for now. Pollock/Wasim was close but I edge it to Wasim
 
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capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
DrWolverine said:
Among ATG bowlers Shaun Pollock has the best batting record at position 7 or lower
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I have two set-ups:

A:

Sachin
Jayasuriya
Kohli
Viv
ABD
Dhoni+*
Klusener
Akram
Garner
McGrath
Murali

B:

Sachin
Lara
Kohli
Viv
ABD
Dhoni+*
Kapil
Pollock
Akram
McGrath/Garner
Murali
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

U19 Vice-Captain
Thala_0710 said:
For me he does probably
Sachin
Rohit
Richards
Kohli
De Villiers
Dhoni*+
Klusener
Pollock/Wasim
Garner
McGrath
Murali

Could take Sanath over Rohit for a better 6th bowling option, but I'll go Rohit for now
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For me :
1. Sanath/Rohit as an opener and pick Dhoni as the keeper
2. Gilchrist as an opener and pick Flintoff as the all rounder
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

U19 Vice-Captain
capt_Luffy said:
I have two set-ups:

A:

Sachin
Jayasuriya
Kohli
Viv
ABD
Dhoni+*
Klusener
Akram
Garner
McGrath
Murali

B:

Sachin
Lara
Kohli
Viv
ABD
Dhoni+*
Kapil
Pollock
Akram
McGrath/Garner
Murali
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For me :


1. Sachin
2.
3. Viv
4. Kohli
5. ABD
6.
7. Klusener
8. McGrath
9. Murali
10. Garner
11.

2 is Rohit or Sanath or Gilchrist
6 is Dhoni or Flintoff or Kapil
11 is Akram, Pollock or Hadlee
 
T

Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
DrWolverine said:
For me :


1. Sachin
2.
3. Viv
4. Kohli
5. ABD
6.
7. Klusener
8. McGrath
9. Murali
10. Garner
11.

2 is Rohit or Sanath or Gilchrist
6 is Dhoni or Flintoff or Kapil
11 is Akram, Pollock or Hadlee
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Pretty much agree with this.
No 6: Dhoni just edges as an odi wkb for me above Gilly. Add in the captaincy, this one is the easiest of the 3 very tough decisions here. Don't think I'll take Flintoff/Kapil over him at 6
No 2: With Dhoni in there, in Rohit vs Gilly I think Rohit is the slightly better bat, especially after this last 2 wc campaigns. Rohit vs sanath is a toss up, can pick anyone based on how I feel that day. Today I'll go, coz I think his batting overpowers the extra 6th bowler option of Sanath (have got Sachin too as a decent option).
No 8: Akram vs Pollock vs Hadlee. Just edging to Akram for the iconic performances and the variety + some explosive hitting down at no 8
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
DrWolverine said:
For me :


1. Sachin
2.
3. Viv
4. Kohli
5. ABD
6.
7. Klusener
8. McGrath
9. Murali
10. Garner
11.

2 is Rohit or Sanath or Gilchrist
6 is Dhoni or Flintoff or Kapil
11 is Akram, Pollock or Hadlee
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Thala_0710 said:
For me he just missed out
Sachin
Rohit
Richards
Kohli
De Villiers
Dhoni*+
Klusener
Wasim
Garner
McGrath
Murali

Could take Sanath over Rohit for a better 6th bowling option, but I'll go Rohit for now. Pollock/Wasim was close but I edge it to Wasim
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Kohli should bat at 3 and Viv at 4. Viv batted down the order more often than 3 while Kohli seldom did after his initial days. Also feel their respective games suit those positions more.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
DrWolverine said:
For me :


1. Sachin
2.
3. Viv
4. Kohli
5. ABD
6.
7. Klusener
8. McGrath
9. Murali
10. Garner
11.

2 is Rohit or Sanath or Gilchrist
6 is Dhoni or Flintoff or Kapil
11 is Akram, Pollock or Hadlee
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I think if Flintoff or especially Kapil comes it should be at 7 not 6 where I would prefer a batsman, actually a finisher; one among Dhoni or Bevan. Think Dhoni is the better bat to begin with; add in have a fair few openers above Gilly and his captaincy, and he is a sure shot in mine.
 
ankitj

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Bitmap said:
Gordon Greenidge
Matthew Hayden
Viv Richards
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Adam Gilchrist+
Imran Khan*
Richard Hadlee
Wasim Akram
Muttiah Muralitharan
Glenn McGrath

Garner vs Hadlee super close imo
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Ponting for Lara? Although that will mess up the batting order.
 
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