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Right Arm Offspin - Can't get any overspin

thawra

Cricket Spectator
I've been playing about 6 months after not having played for 15+ years since I was a kid and I've got a grasp on getting a (what for me I'd consider) a pretty nice turn on the ball, but it's always coming out at 90 degrees no matter what I do.

I've been tinkering around with different wrist positions and making sure I get the full pivot and bring my arm fully around, but I can't quite get my head around "spinning up the back" of the ball, or "getting my hand over" the ball. Does anyone have any tips or exercises that might help break the block?
 
I've been playing about 6 months after not having played for 15+ years since I was a kid and I've got a grasp on getting a (what for me I'd consider) a pretty nice turn on the ball, but it's always coming out at 90 degrees no matter what I do.

I've been tinkering around with different wrist positions and making sure I get the full pivot and bring my arm fully around, but I can't quite get my head around "spinning up the back" of the ball, or "getting my hand over" the ball. Does anyone have any tips or exercises that might help break the block?
My advice to you is to watch footage of Ramesh Powar (and his protege Mehedy Hasan Miraz) for the perfect way to bowl off spin with over spin
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
this is going to sound like some conspiratorial **** but we actually think about finger spin totally backwards. To impart spin you need your hand to rotate in the opposite direction to the way you want it to spin. So for off-spin, internally rotate as you release the ball. Watch slow-mos of Lyon bowling, he does this.

 

cnerd123

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I've got the opposite problem, all I get is overspin?

Hard to say what needs fixing without seeing your action. Probably need to work on wrist position on release.
 

Burgey

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Burgey please advise.
Yeah, look. Just put four blokes out on the fence and toss it up. There's nothing hard about finger spin for any able bodied human. No one should aspire to bowling finger spin, it is just something virtually everyone can do.

It's the poor cousin of every other skill set in cricket. Even scoring is a bigger physical challenge than finger spin. Just don't worry about it, it's a dud discipline. Try something else which actually adds value to your team, and to your sense of self worth.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
There is something to be said for knowing your own brand of ROS and the pitch you're playing on and being able to set a decent field accordingly. In the Hutt Valley, for example, where there's no bounce in the decks and the chances of even a long hop being smoked square, having someone 3/4 of the way to the mid-on and mid-off boundary was always useful for a catching chance as attacking batsmen wanted to larrup it over the straight boundary, but generally the ball slowed up further off the pudding-deck leading to that sort of mis-hit.
 

the big bambino

International Captain
Yeah, look. Just put four blokes out on the fence and toss it up. There's nothing hard about finger spin for any able bodied human. No one should aspire to bowling finger spin, it is just something virtually everyone can do.

It's the poor cousin of every other skill set in cricket. Even scoring is a bigger physical challenge than finger spin. Just don't worry about it, it's a dud discipline. Try something else which actually adds value to your team, and to your sense of self worth.
There we go thawra. That's your off spin problem solved.

Do you have a question about rice?
 

sayon basak

International Debutant
Yeah, look. Just put four blokes out on the fence and toss it up. There's nothing hard about finger spin for any able bodied human. No one should aspire to bowling finger spin, it is just something virtually everyone can do.

It's the poor cousin of every other skill set in cricket. Even scoring is a bigger physical challenge than finger spin. Just don't worry about it, it's a dud discipline. Try something else which actually adds value to your team, and to your sense of self worth.
What would your advice be to a left arm wrist spinner who is not very accurate and almost always pitches it up way off of off stump? And whenever he pitches it in line it spins away in the leg side to become a massive wide?
And he is quite slow.
 
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