Who is the most intelligent bowler of all time?

[subshakerz]

Which bowler showed the most tactical nous in defeating batsmen?

 

[kyear2]

Malcolm Denzil Marshall.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Paddles

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

I think Glenn McGrath and Richard Hadlee because they didn't need extreme pace

 

[kyear2]

I think Glenn McGrath and Richard Hadlee because they didn't need extreme pace

Hadlee had it, but had to slow down to achieve the control and success he eventually got.

 

[DrWolverine]

McGrath

He had the intelligence and common sense to stick to what he was great at and it yielded extraordinary results

 

[BazBall21]

It could be someone less obvious who didn't have the physical materials to be at the very top table but overachieved through cunning guile.

 

[Silver Silva]

Paddles

Whose paddles bro

 

[subshakerz]

McGrath

He had the intelligence and common sense to stick to what he was great at and it yielded extraordinary results

I tend to agree. He seemed to preplan batsmen dismissals in an uncanny way.

However, he didn't play the mind games that Warne did.

 

[subshakerz]

Whose paddles bro

Hadlee

 

[Thala_0710]

All time I would say Mcgrath. Out of the current ones, I'd say Bumrah

 

[Coronis]

Whose paddles bro

Bloke who always gets lost on the way to **** creek

 

[Coronis]

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Clarence Victor Grimmett probably.
“The Newton of Spin”.

 

[sayon basak]

Clarence Victor Grimmett probably.
“The Newton of Spin”.

Introducing googly (or even doosra and carrom ball) was much more important than inventing flipper imo.

And you don't need to be intelligent to introduce the flipper, you need intelligence to use it in the right circumstances, Which Warnie did better imo.

 

[BazBall21]

I tend to agree. He seemed to preplan batsmen dismissals in an uncanny way.

However, he didn't play the mind games that Warne did.

Scary bowler without being fast. Calculating menace with an air of inevitability and the bounce he extracted goes under the radar.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Introducing googly (or even doosra and carrom ball) was much more important than inventing flipper imo.

And you don't need to be intelligent to introduce the flipper, you need intelligence to use it in the right circumstances, Which Warnie did better imo.

Grimmett was a genius that discovered finger click spin himself. He even came up with the iverson delivery 20 years before iverson but dropped it for flippers.

His former captain and teammate vic richardson wrote how grimmett was working on his "flipper offbreak" in 1938. He first used it in a brisbane shield game 1938. I found an old newspaper article where grimmett tells everyone he will debut the ball in that match sa v qld.

The truth is grimmett had several mystery balls, all of them flippers.

It was the topspinner he shows in the 1948 photo and description "my mystery ball" he describes how to bowl it as an overspinner. He wrote this was his most successful "dodge" as he called his mystery balls.

He did bowl an offspinning flipper. As did Cec Pepper, and it was just one of grimmetts mystery balls.

The backspinner he debuted in jan 1941 at scg and caused a sensation. But he didn't see its full potential until benaud picked it up off another grimmett student, dooland in the late 50,s.

 

[sayon basak]

The truth is grimmett had several mystery balls, all of them flippers.

I would guess, different grips?

 

[sayon basak]

Found these in youtube.

Still think learning standard flipper is a waste of time, when you can use carrom ball grip to bowl back spinners.

 

[Coronis]

Found these in youtube.

Still think learning standard flipper is a waste of time, when you can use carrom ball grip to bowl back spinners.

Just wondering if you’ve ever bowled leg spin.