PlayerComparisons
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G Smith averages 55 outside of SA
V Kohli averages 42 outside of Ind
V Kohli averages 42 outside of Ind
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G Smith vs Kohli overseas
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DrWolverine
U19 Debutant
Kohli vs Smith
Aus : 54 vs 39
Bang : 14 vs 67
Eng : 33 vs 67
NZ : 36 vs 57
Pak : DNP vs 45
SL : 44 vs 45
WI : 44 vs 73
Kohli in SA : 50
Smith in Ind : 35
Aus : 54 vs 39
Bang : 14 vs 67
Eng : 33 vs 67
NZ : 36 vs 57
Pak : DNP vs 45
SL : 44 vs 45
WI : 44 vs 73
Kohli in SA : 50
Smith in Ind : 35
DrWolverine
U19 Debutant
Graeme Smith
He did bat in an easier era but him being an opener cancels out that advantage
He did bat in an easier era but him being an opener cancels out that advantage
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Kohli
Did better in tougher conditions.
Did better in tougher conditions.
ataraxia
International Coach
wtf
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Not necessarily saying that, but they definitely matter significantly more.
Johan
State Vice-Captain
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Definitely not true, atleast not for a SENA batsmen.
OT — Kohli at peak output, 2-3 ATG tours while Graeme on a consistent output.
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capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
In Australia and the other's home Kohli is Significantly better, like by a huge margin, as is Smith in England. I can't really take BangWI seriously, equal in SL (Smith advantage for facing Murali), Smith good in Pak but nothing great and while Smith has the upper hand in NZ, given the difference in bowling attacks and Kohli played a total of 4 games, not nearly significant enough for me.
ataraxia
International Coach
Bro this is incredible levels of cherry-picking to justify a 13-run average difference. Smith was merely ok over a limited sample size in India and Australia and gun everywhere else, whilst Kohli has been really good in Australia and SA (which have similar conditions) and impressively dogshit elsewhere. If you're saying that that "elsewhere" is actually relatively favourable conditions for Kohli/Smith, then surely you're saying that Kohli was incredibly bad at capitalising on those conditions?
Silver Silva
International Regular
Graeme Smith for me , 17 Test hundreds away from home and none of them came in defeat plus openers tax, he was captain marvel for South Africa.
Kenneth Viljoen
International Regular
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
That's an interesting take. God gracious!!
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
In Australia, England, India, South Africa, Pakistan and Sri Lanka:
Smith: 35m 3071 @48.74
Kohli: 45m 3733 @43.91
Add the difference in quality of the attacks, and I think it's a better reflection than their raw averages.
Smith: 35m 3071 @48.74
Kohli: 45m 3733 @43.91
Add the difference in quality of the attacks, and I think it's a better reflection than their raw averages.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Come on bro let's stop picking on Kohli. Poor guy is already a bit down.
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
State Vice-Captain
At his peak I would take Kohli. Overall maybe Graeme Smith.
OverratedSanity
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Don't buy the idea that Australia and SA matter more in an overseas record. Lots of asian batsmen suck balls in England , NZ too. Kohli's been crap on a lot of tours outside of his 2015-2018 peak . Smith was a consistent force away from home and did it in a tougher batting position albeit a generally flatter era ( the England pitches he got in particular were very road-y). There's too big a difference in their stats for this to go in kohli's favour.
Thala_0710
State 12th Man
Agree with the outside peak era point. From the AUS 2014 tour where Kohli's peak era started till the 2019 series vs BAN, Kohli had 2 ATG tours of AUS and ENG, a very good tour of SA and a 2 good/decent ones in AUS and SL. Outside of that he bas been pretty poor on most away tours bar a couple in NZ SA. Smith was more consistently at a very good/great level away imo
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
That was the best out there. The only comparable away tours by Indians are Amarnath in '83 WI, Dravid in '11 Eng and maybe Sunny in '78 Eng.