England XI vs India XI (since 1970)

[PlayerComparisons]

Which countries best test xi of players who have debuted since 1970 is better?

India:

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Pant
Kapil
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bumrah
Shami

England:

Gooch
Cook
Gower
Root
Pietersen
Botham
Prior
Swann
Willis
Broad
Anderson

 

[Johan]

hmmm two Elite ATG batters and two Second tier ATG batters vs one Second tier ATG batter and a bunch of ATVGs....

India will win but it would be against the spirit of the game

 

[kyear2]

What's with this recent caveat of post 1970, besides artificially trying to make one team as weak as possible?

 

[Johan]

What's with this recent caveat of post 1970, besides artificially trying to make one team as weak as possible?

Otherwise Eng would win etc

 

[kyear2]

Otherwise Eng would win etc

Bullshit tbh.

 

[Coronis]

Awful, awful thread.

 

[Johan]

Bullshit tbh.

OP only likes Brook from England etc, but yeah this is kind of bullshit.

 

[kyear2]

You stack the deck for the result you want then ask the question.

 

[Slifer]

Bullshit tbh.

Agreed. India's team is pretty much their atg XI team. England, not even close. That being said, don't see either team beating the other away.

What would be fair is to also compare the teams using only players that debuted prior to 1970.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Agreed. India's team is pretty much their atg XI team. England, not even close. That being said, don't see either team beating the other away.

What would be fair is to also compare the teams using only players that debuted prior to 1970.

Imo India actually has a pretty decent chance beating England away. The bowling is a bit weaker in England, but the batting kinda makes up.

 

[Johan]

don't see how a match between these teams end in England...

it's like, 0-0 after a 5 match series. Dravid is the key factor against swing imo, and obviously SRT. Think the English openers will outperform the Indians ones on wickets supporting movement.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

The bowling looks very close but England don’t seem to have a bowler of Bumrah’s quality

 

[capt_Luffy]

The bowling looks very close but England don’t seem to have a bowler of Bumrah’s quality

Jimmy wept.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

What's with this recent caveat of post 1970, besides artificially trying to make one team as weak as possible?

Agree. It would be like me doing a team comparison since 27 Feb 1969 to fit Glenn Turner in.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Jimmy wept.

Longevity still has Jimmy ahead career wise tbf. On pure quality though, Bumrah is around Wasim level.

 

[FBU]

Longevity still has Jimmy ahead career wise tbf. On pure quality though, Bumrah is around Wasim level.

Bumrah couldn't stop New Zealand winning in India.

 

[ataraxia]

Bumrah couldn't stop New Zealand winning in India.

Neither could Anderson tbf

 

[reyrey]

Anderson, Broad and Botham in the same side is a bit overkill of the same type of bowler.

 

[sayon basak]

Gavaskar>Gooch
Sehwag>Cook
Dravid>Gower
Tendulkar>Root
Kohli>Pietersen
Pant already better than Matt Prior imo.
Kapil<Botham
Jadeja>Swann
Ashwin>Willis
Bumrah>Broad
Shami<Anderson

Might be a poor way to judge, but yeah.
Not close for me.

 

[Majestic]

Remove Broad and include Gough.

Need to have one bowler who could exploit the reverse swing well.