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As long as no bad injuries, he should end up with more runs and a higher average than Crowe tbhBig claims alert
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Kane Williamson not in league of other elite test batters
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sayon basak
International Debutant
Still would take quite some brilliant effort to top Williamson's average.
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International Vice-Captain
He should end up with a much more well rounded record but will probably average lower overall
sayon basak
International Debutant
Crowe>Ravindra needs to clarification. My guy is only into his 10th test.
Not sure about the other tho. Think choosing someone averaging 10 more wouldn't be irrational.
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International Vice-Captain
Yea obviously crowe is better rn lol. Rachin is crazy talented tho and could potentially end with a better record.
Johan
State Vice-Captain
Crowe vs Williamson is like Gooch vs Amla, obviously I've Crowe > Gooch and Williamson > Amla but you get the idea.
Johan
State Vice-Captain
sayon basak
International Debutant
I don't agree either.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
With the sentence in quotes I don't agree with as well
Not rating Amla is weird.
Johan
State Vice-Captain
Cook tier to me
Both Amla and Cook have played significant knocks in Australia, India, South Africa, Sri Lanka and England which Williamson has lacked.
Williamson is better in home conditions and against weaker nations such as Windies, Zimbabwe etc. He has been excellent vs Pakistan too but is that enough? I don't think so.
Vs top 6 nations( excluding WI, BD, Zim) in away and neutral venue,
Amla - 49
Cook - 44
Williamson - 40
Like Williamson, Amla also batted at 3 for most part.
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Williamson is better in home conditions and against weaker nations such as Windies, Zimbabwe etc. He has been excellent vs Pakistan too but is that enough? I don't think so.
Vs top 6 nations( excluding WI, BD, Zim) in away and neutral venue,
Amla - 49
Cook - 44
Williamson - 40
Like Williamson, Amla also batted at 3 for most part.
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BazBall21
International Captain
Kane's 2018 UAE tour was very creditable. Probably his best overseas series performance. The WI tour of 2014 also came against a respectable attack on some surfaces with life. WI were very poor with the kookaburra ball in New Zealand though.
There's been a hint of it throughout his career, but Williamson from 2019 onwards has absolutely pulverised poor attacks and has generally struggled against good ones. Unfortunate that his sample size of opportunities against good attacks and in tough conditions esp away from home has been somewhat restricted, but that has equally helped his career average and you can only go by what someone has done in the end.
There's been a hint of it throughout his career, but Williamson from 2019 onwards has absolutely pulverised poor attacks and has generally struggled against good ones. Unfortunate that his sample size of opportunities against good attacks and in tough conditions esp away from home has been somewhat restricted, but that has equally helped his career average and you can only go by what someone has done in the end.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Top 3 in NZ
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4-7 in NZ
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I said batting top 3 in NZ is easier than those 4 countries, not sure why you're showing me 4-7. Obviously it's easier batting down the order. That applies anywhere in the world not just NZ.Top 3 in NZ
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I checked anyways and batting averages for the top 3 in NZ, Aus, Ind, SA and Eng in that same time period are all thereabouts in the 25-30 range with SA and Eng at either end so what I said was wrong if you take the numbers at face value.
KW should definitely get extra credit for batting in the top 3. I just don't think you need to bring up NZ specifically as if it's harder to bat there than anywhere else.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Because the stats you referred to weren't at all about the top 3 and the ones I showed were. Batting in the top 3 is harder in NZ. Meanwhile you're acting like the bowling figures that show the numbers are all within 1-2 are definitive for your point.